mrjames
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10-15-17 09:30 PM - Post#234025
In response to SomeGuy
On the women's model point - I'm not that educated about women's recruiting ranking systems and sites to pull advanced stats from, but as long as both exist, one could compile the data and test to see if there were relationships. I think ESPNW runs a system, right? Are there others?
As for Danilo and Noah vs Spencer, Canadians are a huge blind spot for the ratings systems, unless they're Top 50 kids or move to the US to play. Some of that is playing in Canada vs the US, but that's leveled a bit by AAU which has Canadian teams. A lot of it is the reclassing of kids due to Canada's schooling structure, which essentially gives kids the choice of reclassing forward or not. Danilo was a highly-rated recruit at ESPN, then reclassed from 2018 to 2017 in the fall after all the summer re-grading and was just given an NR. Noah averaged 16ppg on 54% shooting at Adidas Uprising and then 13ppg on 59% shooting at Adidas Nations (where Llewellyn lit the world on fire with 22ppg on 52% shooting). He will get a lot of publicity now at NMH, but I'm not sure anyone would know his high school exploits in Canada for anything.
Danilo was the most hotly pursued recruit in the 2017 class, though Much would have been. The 2017 class wasn't very good or deep though, so that doesn't necessarily mean he (or Much) are going to follow the same path as the bests from the loaded 2016 class.
Spencer's offensive value is clear. He can run an offense in a way that Harvard hasn't seen with any point guard it has had thus far. Can he play D1 defense? We'll find out. For Noah, there's not a lot to find out. If he could shoot, he'd be a Top 50 kid in the class and would be at a Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, etc. He doesn't have a remotely reliable jump shot. But otherwise, he's really tough to keep from producing and he can set up others (like a Wes Saunders). He's also a plus defender.
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