07-23-18 11:09 AM - Post#259277 In response to Jeff2sf
Hey, I was a student too. And saw some really good teams up close. And those teams smoked their weed and played at a nationally competitive level. The problem here was not limited to having a good time. The problem was the lack of discipline on the court, which was believed to be related to the partying.
You have to look at the decline of these players over the course of the Allen relationship---we thought Cartwright would be an all-Ivy player. Thought Hicks would take his game to another level. Thought Brooks could play (OK, I did and probably not many others). But all these guys either treaded water or got worse.