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Username Post: Meisner
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Masters Student
Posts: 530

Age: 69
Loc: New York City
Reg: 07-23-18
07-29-18 04:04 PM - Post#259605    
    In response to SomeGuy

SomeGuy:
I have no problem with your "pushing back on my assertions"- hope, in fact that doing so improves the quality of your life somehow; but if your going to initiate these player comparisons, it may be wise to consider as much of the 2017-18 data available to you:
You wrote that J.Faulds " as a rebounder was statistically significantly behind Tape and Meisner"; IN FACT, the primary category he was significantly behind those two starting players was minutes played- Meisner logged 300 more minutes than Jaron; and Patrick played almost 100 more last season; rather difficult to get credit for NCAA rebounds when you're sitting on the bench next to Gerry Sherwin, you may be willing to agree. You're not allowed to block shots from the bench, or score any points, either.
You also write that "defensive stats are tricky." But offensive numbers can be somewhat ambiguous, as well. So much of all this is about being given the opportunity to perform well. Suppose Jaron Faulds got the star treatment at Columbia that Des Cambridge received at Brown- translating to 30 minutes playing time & 15 shot attempts, per event. That having been the case, it's reasonable to see the real probability of Faulds having supplied Columbia with more than 20 points and 7 rebounds per game, enough to have led the team in both categories. All, hypothetical? Yes; but if Faulds usually took good & makeable shots during 14 minutes on the court (which he did do), he would have taken more such shots given 30 minutes on the court. Whatever hustle he displayed in going after the ball would have continued with increased playing time, considering he was a healthy 18 year old kid.
You go on to imply that Faulds was the team's best low post scoring option; and if you're as correct about that as I believe you are , Coach Engles obviously wasn't having it as Jaron (despite his 60% FGP) took the same amount of shots as Patrick, and about 150 less than Meisner during the course of the lost season.
One more interesting point you made was that "Engles didn’t like the matchup with Faulds when opponents played small". That's true; he clearly didn't. But given his limited rate of success, when Engles doesn't like something, there's probably good reason for a normal coach, actually trying to win a game, to like it! What if Engles, instead of getting caught with his pants down 28 games in a row, DICTATED the terms under which the contest would be played? What if instead of responding to a team's small lineup with a small lineup of his own, Engles made the opponent ANSWER to his BIG lineup? Unfortunately, as the number of white knuckle losses mounted, it just never seemed to occur to this uninspired, vegetable of a man to ever attempt something different.

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