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Username Post: Non-Graduating Penn Players in the Portal        (Topic#28000)
besnoah 
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Reg: 12-14-05
03-18-24 12:51 PM - Post#365692    

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Penn G Tyler Perkins has entered the transfer portal.

Seems like everything is going great here. Honestly bizarre that anyone is suggesting a coaching change.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Non-Graduating Penn Players in the Portal
03-18-24 01:03 PM - Post#365694    
    In response to besnoah

I'm not surprised in the least. We're seeing Miller II, where the players are voting with their feet. I'm sure the AD sees what is happening. Might be a good idea for her to contact Perkins directly and see what it would take for him to change his mind. Of course, if there is serious money for him out there, nothing will change his mind.

Let's see where Martz and Slajchet go and wait for the next shoe to drop.

 
mbaprof 
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Reg: 12-24-11
03-18-24 01:12 PM - Post#365695    
    In response to palestra38

Martz graduated in December and has been very gainfully employed since then at wharton undergrad level (which more than any nil deal he is going to get) so i doubt we will see him in portal



 
palestra38 
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03-18-24 01:21 PM - Post#365696    
    In response to mbaprof

Getting that MBA for free is a pretty attractive option--NILs notwithstanding.

 
GoQuakersGo 
Sophomore
Posts: 120

Reg: 11-21-04
03-18-24 01:21 PM - Post#365697    
    In response to mbaprof

This sucks but at least Steve Donahue is a nice guy!

 
Penndemonium 
PhD Student
Posts: 1916

Reg: 11-29-04
03-18-24 01:23 PM - Post#365698    
    In response to mbaprof

Yeah, that is pretty much a killer. I don't think any of us understands all of the dynamics with player and coach, but the result is clear that will set back everything. The tandem of Perkins and Brown was a key part of carrying us forward. This year was our first consecutive decent recruiting class in a very long time - finally a chance to build on something. Perkins was undoubtedly a key, though.

I don't know if Perkins is disenchanted with Donahue or is drawn by the luster of other opportunities, but the team's record probably doesn't help.

I suppose he may be just testing waters, but there will likely be a lot of interest from other teams.



 
slane 
Freshman
Posts: 73

Reg: 02-09-05
03-18-24 01:24 PM - Post#365699    
    In response to mbaprof

If you don’t think that there are also other things happening at Penn and in Philly in general that help contribute to this (along with the prospect of receiving tens of thousands of dollars from the major conference programs) you are just naive. Penn could hire Mike Krzyzewski out of retirement and this would still be happening.

 
palestra38 
Professor
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Reg: 11-21-04
03-18-24 01:31 PM - Post#365700    
    In response to slane

Oh stop with the BS nonsense MAGA narrative that people are shooting up the streets here. It's just false and frankly, stupid. Philadelphia, and Penn in particular are FAR safer than they were when we were students.

 
penn nation 
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Reg: 12-02-04
03-18-24 01:36 PM - Post#365701    
    In response to palestra38

Clearly the system at Penn is broken.

Frankly I thought we had already reached that point when Martz decided not to come back after Dingle's exit.

 
Penn90 
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Penn90
Reg: 11-22-04
03-18-24 01:49 PM - Post#365704    
    In response to penn nation

Are any non-senior players from other Ivies in the portal? Just curious.

My two cents: Perkins didn't like getting jerked around by SD's quixotic lineup and playing time decisions. He started out playing a lot, then lost time.
Leges sine moribus vanae


 
CM 
Masters Student
Posts: 445

Reg: 10-11-18
03-18-24 01:50 PM - Post#365705    
    In response to penn nation

I've been saying this since Martz left the program last May, the current coaches have created a culture players hate being in. It is not more complicated than that.

 
CM 
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Reg: 10-11-18
03-18-24 01:51 PM - Post#365706    
    In response to Penn90

Players respect guys like Ed Holland and they know he's good. So if he gets treated in the way he was this year by the coaches then they know anybody can be.

 
Penn90 
Masters Student
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Penn90
Reg: 11-22-04
03-18-24 01:53 PM - Post#365707    
    In response to CM

Slajchert news: https://www.thedp.com/article/2024/03/clark -slajch...
Leges sine moribus vanae


 
penn nation 
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Reg: 12-02-04
03-18-24 02:02 PM - Post#365709    
    In response to Penn90

Right, a bit of old news actually.

 
SomeGuy 
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Reg: 11-22-04
03-18-24 02:47 PM - Post#365717    
    In response to Penn90

Did he lose time? I guess he dropped from a little over 29 mpg OOC to a little over 28 mpg in Ivy play. I think that had nothing to do with quixotic lineups though — his sub 30 minute games were either Dartmouth blowouts or games where he had foul trouble. Regardless, one minute less time isn’t much. He played starter minutes in every game this year.

 
SomeGuy 
Professor
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Reg: 11-22-04
03-18-24 02:55 PM - Post#365719    
    In response to SomeGuy

Curious to see what happens now. Perkins is the biggest undergrad so far, but Harvard has two and Yale has one. That’s already a lot. That’s in addition to all the graduating seniors you’d expect to be there.

 
slane 
Freshman
Posts: 73

Reg: 02-09-05
03-18-24 03:26 PM - Post#365725    
    In response to palestra38

8 high school kids shot at a bus stop in Philly last week. Sorry, but I don’t recall that happening in the past. And the kids themselves described Philly as a “war zone”. Get your head out of your you know where.

 
Quakers03 
Professor
Posts: 12533

Reg: 12-07-04
03-18-24 03:30 PM - Post#365727    
    In response to slane

You could not be more wrong. Just stop. Columbia just got an at -large bid in a city with the same BS narrative.

As for this overall news, there’s nothing more to say. Maybe it will help accelerate the process we know needs to happen. Dark times.



 
palestra38 
Professor
Posts: 33049

Reg: 11-21-04
03-18-24 03:30 PM - Post#365728    
    In response to slane

I live here Stan--you don't. I walk the "dangerous" streets of Philadelphia every day. Yes, 8 kids got shot at a bus stop in Northeast Philadelphia. It's tragic. But it has nothing to do with this topic and you're just giving us propaganda. There was objectively far more crime under your sainted Reagan than there is today. It's a shame to see you so ridiculously brainwashed that you post MAGA propaganda having nothing to do with Perkins leaving. But it's par for the course. Just bring real facts, not made up BS.

 
Penndemonium 
PhD Student
Posts: 1916

Reg: 11-29-04
03-18-24 03:30 PM - Post#365729    
    In response to CM

Do you have any form of direct input from a player or coach? If so, I'm genuinely interested. If it is hearsay, I'm still somewhat interested. If this is just what you think they should be thinking, then this is a useless. There are so many basketball, academic, and personally reasons why players may want to transfer. There are a lot of people unhappy about playing time in EVERY sport. I personally doubt that was Perkins' issue, but I'll admit I have no idea.

  • CM Said:
Players respect guys like Ed Holland and they know he's good. So if he gets treated in the way he was this year by the coaches then they know anybody can be.




 
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