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Username Post: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament        (Topic#22862)
Eric Von Zipper 
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03-13-19 12:04 PM - Post#281011    

Yale -150
Pennsylvania +300
Harvard +320
Princeton +750

 
palestra38 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 12:05 PM - Post#281013    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

Penn is favored over Harvard?????

 
mrjames 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 12:18 PM - Post#281020    
    In response to palestra38

I tried to tell folks this but got treated like I had lost my mind.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 12:56 PM - Post#281028    
    In response to mrjames

Imagine if the tournament were still at the Palestra.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 01:05 PM - Post#281029    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Don't worry---that isn't going to happen for another 7 years. I'm looking forward to that pure basketball atmosphere when it is at Jadwin.

 
Mike Porter 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 02:18 PM - Post#281045    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:
I tried to tell folks this but got treated like I had lost my mind.



Weird. I still look at Penn as the underdog even if we are a few points higher in KP. Harvard beat us 2X and finished as a co-champion, we snuck into 4th. I’m hopeful, but still from a mindset of an underdog regardless what Vegas thinks.

 
penn nation 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 02:43 PM - Post#281055    
    In response to Mike Porter

Is Bryce (ours, not theirs) going to play meaningful minutes? Sure would be nice to have a reliable option from distance. When on, Bryce is a game changer and without Wang we don't have a ton of great shooting options.

 
SRP 
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03-13-19 05:39 PM - Post#281125    
    In response to penn nation

A great opportunity to shock the world.

 
penn nation 
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03-13-19 05:45 PM - Post#281126    
    In response to SRP

Yes, your female POY makes an emergency appearance off the bench and allows the male Tigers to beat the spread at the buzzer.

 
SRP 
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03-13-19 06:01 PM - Post#281132    
    In response to penn nation

There's no way Yale doesn't come in feeling cocky for this first game, no matter what the coaches say and whatever the players say in public. That will be favorable for a Tiger squad that I expect to come in with an intent to play physical basketball, unlike the sleepwalking effort of the last game.

 
palestra38 
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03-13-19 06:03 PM - Post#281133    
    In response to SRP

Question is whether Princeton at this point has enough athleticism left to stay with Yale. That is what looked absent this past weekend, not that they were sleepwalking. But it would be really interesting if they can make it a game.

 
SRP 
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03-13-19 06:06 PM - Post#281134    
    In response to palestra38

Yale guys were diving for loose balls, Princeton guys were bending over. On offense, players were standing around. It was not a good look.

 
penn nation 
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03-13-19 06:11 PM - Post#281136    
    In response to SRP

I watched the Brown-Princeton game. It was not a good look for the Tigers.

 
LyleGold 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 07:12 PM - Post#281145    
    In response to Mike Porter

  • Mike Porter Said:
Harvard beat us 2X and finished as a co-champion, we snuck into 4th.



Hold on, Harvard pulled out a miraculous OT win in one of those. Second, we are entering the tournament on a three game winning streak - all of which were elimination games that simulate the dynamics of a tournament. One of those was a blowout of top seeded Yale who was battling for the title. That is not exactly sneaking in like it would have been if there was a 3-way tie at 6-8, which was a possibility. Finally, Harvard just lost to Cornell in a game where it was also battling for the title and finished the year with yet another OT victory over the seventh place team who barely missed a game winner at the buzzer. When you consider our OOC record, this may be a bit surprising, but not a shock.


 
1LotteryPick1969 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 07:47 PM - Post#281150    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
Don't worry---that isn't going to happen for another 7 years. I'm looking forward to that pure basketball atmosphere when it is at Jadwin.



I meant no disrespect to the Palestra.

Nor was an atmospheric reference.

By volume, dry air contains 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.04% carbon dioxide, and small amounts of other gases. Air also contains a variable amount of water vapor, on average around 1% at sea level, and 0.4% over the entire atmosphere.

Just referring to the home court advantage.



 
LyleGold 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 08:45 PM - Post#281173    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

I think he meant that Princeton fans just blow a lot of hot air.

 
umbrellaman 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 09:11 PM - Post#281184    
    In response to mrjames

I dunno. Harvard was certainly a bit enigmatic in the League but I don’t think the rating systems factor in that Aiken was out gor the OOC schedule.

 
umbrellaman 
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03-13-19 09:16 PM - Post#281186    
    In response to palestra38

Yale handled Princeton fairly comfortably even with Cannady playing 34 minutes. Schweiger played a lot for Stephens with foul trouble. So, I agree that athleticism will be an issue. Henderson is gonna have to come up with something different.

 
jeromelh 
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03-13-19 09:43 PM - Post#281199    
    In response to umbrellaman

I don't believe that athleticism is the issue. For Princeton, the 3 point shots have to fall. The Tigers are dead last in the Ivy League 3 point percentage.

Does anyone have any news on Schwieger?? He hasn't played in the last few games.

 
Mike Porter 
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Re: Odds To Win The Ivy Tournament
03-13-19 11:55 PM - Post#281226    
    In response to LyleGold

  • LyleGold Said:
  • Mike Porter Said:
Harvard beat us 2X and finished as a co-champion, we snuck into 4th.



Hold on, Harvard pulled out a miraculous OT win in one of those. Second, we are entering the tournament on a three game winning streak - all of which were elimination games that simulate the dynamics of a tournament. One of those was a blowout of top seeded Yale who was battling for the title. That is not exactly sneaking in like it would have been if there was a 3-way tie at 6-8, which was a possibility. Finally, Harvard just lost to Cornell in a game where it was also battling for the title and finished the year with yet another OT victory over the seventh place team who barely missed a game winner at the buzzer. When you consider our OOC record, this may be a bit surprising, but not a shock.




Trying to get the reverse jinx going here Lyle, work with me..... haha


 
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