WOFM
Freshman
Posts: 92
Reg: 02-24-11
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03-21-11 09:51 PM - Post#102182
In response to jdp 94
3 years
But will you care after your boy graduates! 
jdp94, you're uncovered the secret behind the wespearl optimism!
I've been following the team since the '94 "breakthrough", which was when we first deluded ourselves into thinking we mattered. And I have attended games throughout the Patsos "era". Yes, this is/was as talented a team as Patsos has had, but the coaching has not improved along with the players.
At first I thought Patsos just needed time to develop his coaching chops to go along with his obvious recruiting skills. But 7 years of same old same old is enough. To me, the guy just can't coach 'em up - period. To simply blame it all on Barney just doesn't satisfy me, especially since JB never suited up after Dec.
Maybe if JP got himself some quality X/O's bench coaches, he could make it work, but if that hasn't happened yet, when will it??
I've been trying to dump JP for over 2 years now, and sadly, looks like I need to shift that over to he lax field as well....bad loss to Denver at home followed up by an even badder loss to AF, unacceptable! This is what we get for the $62M investment??
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LoCo2011
Senior
Posts: 399
Age: 35
Reg: 01-05-08
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03-21-11 10:48 PM - Post#102189
In response to WOFM
Our lacrosse program got buried when we didn't get invited to join the Big East when it formed a lacrosse conference 2 years ago... ECAC isn't what it used to be and never will be.. we will continue to lose recruits to the ACC/Big East... the loss to Air Force is a disgrace for a once proud program.
Picked up an inside lacrosse magazine this fall.. their big recruiting issue... of the top 100 recruits, loyola got 1 of them.. #93... in a spot like lacrosse when there's maybe 60 teams.. that can't happen for a "top 20" program
one of the biggest misconceptions, especially amongst students, is that a top 20 ranking in lacrosse is comparable to a top 20 ranking in men's hoops... maybe the top 7 or 8 in lacrosse would be equivalent to the top 25 in hoops.
sad that now even for lacrosse we'll have to rely on what seems to be a miracle run in the conference tourney to make it back to the ncaas
but i digress...
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wespearl
Freshman
Posts: 61
Age: 66
Reg: 01-10-11
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03-22-11 10:20 AM - Post#102207
In response to LoCo2011
Lacrosse is a great sport but you are right not that many schools have programs so it is misleading
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WOFM
Freshman
Posts: 92
Reg: 02-24-11
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03-22-11 03:38 PM - Post#102219
In response to wespearl
Cooley to be hired by Providence after only 5 years at Fairfield.
Jimmy has had 7 years and the best he could parlay that into was a rumored offer to return to being an assistast.....
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jdp 94
Masters Student
Posts: 870
Loc: New York
Reg: 07-20-06
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03-22-11 11:16 PM - Post#102235
In response to Brian
Hey it only took you 17 years to stop caring and that lasted all of 2 months. Every time you think you're out, they suck you back in!
I'm a sucker for a four game winning streak.
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greyhound
Freshman
Posts: 31
Age: 39
Reg: 11-23-09
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03-23-11 01:52 PM - Post#102248
In response to jdp 94
The MAAC is probably the best conference, other than maybe the CAA, to use as a stepping stone to reach the big time level coaching ranks.
Jimmy Valvano - Iona
Skip - Wake Forest
John Beilein - Canisius
Cooley - Providence
All you need is a few 20 win seasons and you're almost a lock for a big time offer.
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MacDog
Masters Student
Posts: 437
Reg: 07-21-06
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03-23-11 03:14 PM - Post#102251
In response to greyhound
Hewitt to Siena
Fraschilla to St. John's
there are tons.
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jdp 94
Masters Student
Posts: 870
Loc: New York
Reg: 07-20-06
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03-23-11 06:24 PM - Post#102258
In response to MacDog
I'm sure that ST Peter's coach will be going somewhere else shortly. Look what he has done there given how little he has to work with.
Meanwhile on Evergreen...
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maacballer
Sophomore
Posts: 160
Age: 33
Reg: 03-23-11
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03-23-11 09:52 PM - Post#102264
In response to jdp 94
frustrated with results the last few years but do see improvement with Loyola this year, like returnees and hopefully additions will be ready to help
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Scott
Sophomore
Posts: 144
Reg: 07-25-06
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03-23-11 10:09 PM - Post#102265
In response to greyhound
The Missouri Valley has really produced a lot of coaches that moved on to larger programs in the last 10 years or so:
Bruce Weber-So Ill to Illinois
Matt Painter-So Ill to Purdue
Dana Altman-Creighton to Oregon
Keno Davis-Drake to Providence
Mark Turgeon-Wichita State to Texas A+M
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Lou
Masters Student
Posts: 406
Age: 112
Loc: Atlanta
Reg: 07-19-06
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03-25-11 03:54 PM - Post#102366
In response to Scott
Anyone want to bring up how much smarter Cooley became after he hired a certain assistant, and how it might relate to our conversation?
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loco09
Masters Student
Posts: 526
Reg: 02-08-07
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03-25-11 04:32 PM - Post#102371
In response to Lou
Surprisingly though Blaney was never even mentioned to get the job after Cooley. I always thought the team really suffered from a x and o strategy perspective after he left.
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Lou
Masters Student
Posts: 406
Age: 112
Loc: Atlanta
Reg: 07-19-06
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03-25-11 04:49 PM - Post#102372
In response to loco09
I think Bob Simon has rank on him, and there is only going to be one internal candidate. So Blaney was in a tough position to go for it if he wanted it.
Agreed Loyola suffered without him.
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