Brian Martin
Masters Student
Posts: 963
Loc: Washington, DC
Reg: 11-21-04
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Coach Sydney Johnson 04-04-11 10:42 PM - Post#103260
In response to T71
Don't be so sanctimonious. Coaching is a profession.
Johnson doesn't owe Princeton anything. He was a cheap coach for four years. Now he is proven and in demand so Princeton has to offer competitive salary or lose him.
Edited by Brian Martin on 04-04-11 10:43 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts: 3783
Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
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04-04-11 10:45 PM - Post#103261
In response to T71
If you or I took a huge compensation increase we'd say it wasn't greed, but a desire to provide for our families and to be paid what we're worth. Johnson does the same thing and it's venality.
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Jeff2sf
Postdoc
Posts: 4466
Reg: 11-22-04
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04-04-11 10:49 PM - Post#103263
In response to Silver Maple
Yes, t71's reaction is everything that's wrong with sports fans. Ivy Leaguers are better than that.
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Jeff2sf
Postdoc
Posts: 4466
Reg: 11-22-04
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Re: Coach Sydney Johnson 04-04-11 11:07 PM - Post#103269
In response to Mike Porter
Obviously he was there a long time, but I recall people explaining that Dunphy was over $500K when he left Penn for Temple and a significant raise. Fair enough. I can understand if the Big 10, PAC 10, Big East or A10 come calling with the checkbook. I CAN'T understand if the MAAC comes calling...
500K sounds pretty high, you got a link?
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Howard Gensler
Postdoc
Posts: 4141
Reg: 11-21-04
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04-04-11 11:09 PM - Post#103271
In response to Jeff2sf
No way Dunphy was making $500K at Penn.
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Mike Porter
Postdoc
Posts: 3619
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Reg: 11-21-04
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04-04-11 11:58 PM - Post#103280
In response to Howard Gensler
Howard you would know much better than I do. It was a recollection but sounds like a bad one. Maybe it was $500K that Temple offered to get Dunphy to move?
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gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts: 3683
Reg: 02-06-10
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Coach Sydney Johnson 04-05-11 12:03 AM - Post#103282
In response to Mike Porter
According to this...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensba sketb...
...Temple pays Dunphy $706K.
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sparman
PhD Student
Posts: 1352
Reg: 12-08-04
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Re: Coach Sydney Johnson 04-05-11 12:05 AM - Post#103283
In response to gokinsmen
According to this, he was paid $300K at Penn (and "close to" $800K at Temple, thus your $500K figure).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...
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puband09
Masters Student
Posts: 782
Reg: 12-19-09
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04-05-11 12:16 AM - Post#103284
In response to sparman
This is so weird to look at
http://www.fairfieldstags.com/splash.aspx?id=splas...
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gokinsmen
Postdoc
Posts: 3683
Reg: 02-06-10
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Coach Sydney Johnson 04-05-11 12:49 AM - Post#103293
In response to puband09
Our mistake was that we never gave SJ a loud, animated welcome banner complete with cheerleader GIFs.
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sparman
PhD Student
Posts: 1352
Reg: 12-08-04
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04-05-11 12:54 AM - Post#103295
In response to puband09
I, for one, checked "Skip this ad permanently."
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BU GUY
Pre-Frosh
Posts: 2
Age: 31
Reg: 03-13-11
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04-05-11 05:45 PM - Post#103409
In response to sparman
Sorry, Tiger fans - I really thought that SJ was on his way to Bradley to reunite with Mike Cross. Most people on this board thought that Bradley was a HUGE step down for SJ - but Fairfield???? Come on.............
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cornellfan4
Masters Student
Posts: 543
Reg: 12-09-09
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04-06-11 09:06 AM - Post#103456
In response to BU GUY
press conf today at 11am
http://www.fairfieldstags.com/news/2011/4/5/MBB_04...
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cornellfan4
Masters Student
Posts: 543
Reg: 12-09-09
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04-06-11 11:05 AM - Post#103463
In response to cornellfan4
Interesting comment from the press conf that Fairfield's AD was at the Ivy league playoff
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T71
Sophomore
Posts: 161
Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Reg: 11-23-04
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04-06-11 11:27 AM - Post#103468
In response to cornellfan4
Listening to the news conference, Sydney sounds very excited to leave Princeton and work for an AD and University that supports him. He’s now finally part of something “specialâ€. Now he has his dream and “loves Fairfield basketballâ€.
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1LotteryPick1969
Postdoc
Posts: 2280
Age: 73
Loc: Sandy, Utah
Reg: 11-21-04
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04-06-11 11:33 AM - Post#103472
In response to T71
For some reason I can't hear anything on my office computer. Sounds like a blessing!
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Albert08
Masters Student
Posts: 574
Reg: 08-21-10
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04-06-11 11:53 AM - Post#103473
In response to T71
From what I heard, he thanked Pete Carril, JT III and all of his Princeton players....that was it. No nod to his assistant coaches at Princeton or any mention of the university, the fans, the students. It was also interesting how much he emphasized that the Fairfield community needs to welcome back Ed Cooley with open arms any time he returns to Fairfield. I wonder what he expects if he makes any halfway public return to Princeton.
My take is that the most important factor other than money was the support he must have felt he wasn't getting. Now he feels he has the support he wants.
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Kit
Senior
Posts: 380
Loc: Central Massachusetts
Reg: 11-29-04
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04-06-11 12:12 PM - Post#103475
In response to Albert08
Why couldn't the administration make Sydney an offer comparable to Fairfield's? Now we have to go through the coaching change carousel yet again. Hopefully, this won't be a four year cycle where we have to go looking for a new coach. The administration had better invest more heavily in the next coach or else...
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Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts: 3783
Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
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04-06-11 12:24 PM - Post#103478
In response to Kit
It's either 1) priorities or 2) arrogance.
1) The university has decided that, given the other demands for resources, it simply cannot allocate more to men's basketball than it currently does, no matter how much it would like to. This seems implausible from an outsider's perspective, but it's certainly possible.
2) The university and AD believe that their men's basketball program is so robust that it can win no matter who is the coach (unless that coach's name rhymes with Moe Snot). Either that or they believe that the men's HC job is so attractive that they can always keep it filled with a top notch coach no matter how under-supported the team is.
People closer to the program than I will have to tell us which explanation is more accurate.
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Brian Martin
Masters Student
Posts: 963
Loc: Washington, DC
Reg: 11-21-04
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04-06-11 12:25 PM - Post#103479
In response to Kit
Is there anything necessarily wrong with a four-year coaching cycle? I mean, realistically the only way to avoid it would be to not win the Ivy League so your coach has no offers. Why not accept that Princeton's biggest role in modern college basketball is as a cradle of coaches?
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