Untitled Document
Brown Columbia Cornell Dartmouth Harvard Penn Princeton Yale



 Page 8 of 11 « First<891011
Username Post: Coach Sydney Johnson        (Topic#11781)
Brian Martin 
Masters Student
Posts: 963
Brian Martin
Loc: Washington, DC
Reg: 11-21-04
Coach Sydney Johnson
04-04-11 10:42 PM - Post#103260    
    In response to T71

Don't be so sanctimonious. Coaching is a profession.

Johnson doesn't owe Princeton anything. He was a cheap coach for four years. Now he is proven and in demand so Princeton has to offer competitive salary or lose him.



Edited by Brian Martin on 04-04-11 10:43 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Silver Maple 
Postdoc
Posts: 3484

Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
04-04-11 10:45 PM - Post#103261    
    In response to T71

If you or I took a huge compensation increase we'd say it wasn't greed, but a desire to provide for our families and to be paid what we're worth. Johnson does the same thing and it's venality.

 
Jeff2sf 
Postdoc
Posts: 3949

Reg: 11-22-04
04-04-11 10:49 PM - Post#103263    
    In response to Silver Maple

Yes, t71's reaction is everything that's wrong with sports fans. Ivy Leaguers are better than that.

 
Jeff2sf 
Postdoc
Posts: 3949

Reg: 11-22-04
Re: Coach Sydney Johnson
04-04-11 11:07 PM - Post#103269    
    In response to Mike Porter

  • Mike Porter Said:
Obviously he was there a long time, but I recall people explaining that Dunphy was over $500K when he left Penn for Temple and a significant raise. Fair enough. I can understand if the Big 10, PAC 10, Big East or A10 come calling with the checkbook. I CAN'T understand if the MAAC comes calling...





500K sounds pretty high, you got a link?

 
Howard Gensler 
Postdoc
Posts: 4141

Reg: 11-21-04
04-04-11 11:09 PM - Post#103271    
    In response to Jeff2sf

No way Dunphy was making $500K at Penn.

 
Mike Porter 
Postdoc
Posts: 2725
Mike Porter
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Reg: 11-21-04
04-04-11 11:58 PM - Post#103280    
    In response to Howard Gensler

Howard you would know much better than I do. It was a recollection but sounds like a bad one. Maybe it was $500K that Temple offered to get Dunphy to move?

 
gokinsmen 
Postdoc
Posts: 2676

Reg: 02-06-10
Coach Sydney Johnson
04-05-11 12:03 AM - Post#103282    
    In response to Mike Porter

According to this...

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensba sketb...

...Temple pays Dunphy $706K.

 
sparman 
Masters Student
Posts: 955
sparman
Reg: 12-08-04
Re: Coach Sydney Johnson
04-05-11 12:05 AM - Post#103283    
    In response to gokinsmen

According to this, he was paid $300K at Penn (and "close to" $800K at Temple, thus your $500K figure).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...

 
puband09 
Masters Student
Posts: 781

Reg: 12-19-09
04-05-11 12:16 AM - Post#103284    
    In response to sparman

This is so weird to look at
http://www.fairfieldstags.com/splash.aspx?id=splas...

 
gokinsmen 
Postdoc
Posts: 2676

Reg: 02-06-10
Coach Sydney Johnson
04-05-11 12:49 AM - Post#103293    
    In response to puband09

Our mistake was that we never gave SJ a loud, animated welcome banner complete with cheerleader GIFs.

 
sparman 
Masters Student
Posts: 955
sparman
Reg: 12-08-04
04-05-11 12:54 AM - Post#103295    
    In response to puband09

I, for one, checked "Skip this ad permanently."

 
BU GUY 
Pre-Frosh
Posts: 2

Age: 26
Reg: 03-13-11
04-05-11 05:45 PM - Post#103409    
    In response to sparman

Sorry, Tiger fans - I really thought that SJ was on his way to Bradley to reunite with Mike Cross. Most people on this board thought that Bradley was a HUGE step down for SJ - but Fairfield???? Come on.............

 
cornellfan4 
Masters Student
Posts: 543

Reg: 12-09-09
04-06-11 09:06 AM - Post#103456    
    In response to BU GUY

press conf today at 11am
http://www.fairfieldstags.com/news/2011/4/5/MBB_04...

 
cornellfan4 
Masters Student
Posts: 543

Reg: 12-09-09
04-06-11 11:05 AM - Post#103463    
    In response to cornellfan4

Interesting comment from the press conf that Fairfield's AD was at the Ivy league playoff

 
T71 
Sophomore
Posts: 161

Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Reg: 11-23-04
04-06-11 11:27 AM - Post#103468    
    In response to cornellfan4

Listening to the news conference, Sydney sounds very excited to leave Princeton and work for an AD and University that supports him. He’s now finally part of something “special”. Now he has his dream and “loves Fairfield basketball”.



 
1LotteryPick1969 
PhD Student
Posts: 1652
1LotteryPick1969
Age: 69
Loc: Baltimore, Maryland
Reg: 11-21-04
04-06-11 11:33 AM - Post#103472    
    In response to T71

For some reason I can't hear anything on my office computer. Sounds like a blessing!

 
Albert08 
Senior
Posts: 389

Reg: 08-21-10
04-06-11 11:53 AM - Post#103473    
    In response to T71

From what I heard, he thanked Pete Carril, JT III and all of his Princeton players....that was it. No nod to his assistant coaches at Princeton or any mention of the university, the fans, the students. It was also interesting how much he emphasized that the Fairfield community needs to welcome back Ed Cooley with open arms any time he returns to Fairfield. I wonder what he expects if he makes any halfway public return to Princeton.
My take is that the most important factor other than money was the support he must have felt he wasn't getting. Now he feels he has the support he wants.


 
Kit 
Senior
Posts: 376

Loc: Central Massachusetts
Reg: 11-29-04
04-06-11 12:12 PM - Post#103475    
    In response to Albert08

Why couldn't the administration make Sydney an offer comparable to Fairfield's? Now we have to go through the coaching change carousel yet again. Hopefully, this won't be a four year cycle where we have to go looking for a new coach. The administration had better invest more heavily in the next coach or else...

 
Silver Maple 
Postdoc
Posts: 3484

Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
04-06-11 12:24 PM - Post#103478    
    In response to Kit

It's either 1) priorities or 2) arrogance.

1) The university has decided that, given the other demands for resources, it simply cannot allocate more to men's basketball than it currently does, no matter how much it would like to. This seems implausible from an outsider's perspective, but it's certainly possible.

2) The university and AD believe that their men's basketball program is so robust that it can win no matter who is the coach (unless that coach's name rhymes with Moe Snot). Either that or they believe that the men's HC job is so attractive that they can always keep it filled with a top notch coach no matter how under-supported the team is.

People closer to the program than I will have to tell us which explanation is more accurate.

 
Brian Martin 
Masters Student
Posts: 963
Brian Martin
Loc: Washington, DC
Reg: 11-21-04
04-06-11 12:25 PM - Post#103479    
    In response to Kit

Is there anything necessarily wrong with a four-year coaching cycle? I mean, realistically the only way to avoid it would be to not win the Ivy League so your coach has no offers. Why not accept that Princeton's biggest role in modern college basketball is as a cradle of coaches?

 
 Page 8 of 11 « First<891011
Icon Legend Permissions Topic Options
Report Post

Quote Post

Quick Reply

Print Topic

Email Topic

29767 Views




Copyright © 2004-2012 Basketball U. Terms of Use for our Site and Privacy Policy are applicable to you. All rights reserved.
Basketball U. and its subsidiaries are not affiliated in any way with any NCAA athletic conference or member institution.
FusionBB™ Version 2.1 | ©2003-2007 InteractivePHP, Inc.
Execution time: 0.152 seconds.   Total Queries: 18   Zlib Compression is on.
All times are (GMT -0500) Eastern. Current time is 03:59 AM
Top