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Bison137 
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03-12-12 09:30 AM - Post#125468    
    In response to PLHoopsFan

Yes, first round fee for the CBI last year was $30,000 - escalating to a much larger amount for the second round. CIT reportedly costs at least $25,000 for the first round.

AU may well have been given the choice of either hosting or not getting a bid at all, since, as you say, a lot of teams don't want to host since they will likely lose money. For example, URI lost $25,000 last year hosting the first round of the CBI - which created some controversy given that URI's athletic program was already losing a lot of money.

An AU fan on the HC board said that the PL now has a deal where the league will share AU's costs. I had not heard that and I'm not sure of the source.




 
AU_Hoops 
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03-13-12 11:49 PM - Post#125840    
    In response to Bison137

I was the one who mentioned that on the AU board. I've heard that from a few people close to various programs, although I couldn't pinpoint any particular official source unfortunately. If it's true, I think it's a step in the right direction for the PL and good news for all its members. Example: At one point I do remember John Feinstein mentioning that AU received a CIT invite last year but turned it down due to the cost. In the five years of the CBI and four years of the CIT this is the first time a PL school has participated in either.
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BisonRoadWarrior 
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03-14-12 10:38 AM - Post#125877    
    In response to AU_Hoops

I'd rather we sit out the also-ran tourneys and stick with the two classics.
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SteelCity 
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03-14-12 05:50 PM - Post#126025    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

I don't really have a problem with it. I do think they should have some kind of minimum average attendance threshold for the season that needs to be met in order to use any league money.

 
Bison137 
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03-14-12 06:13 PM - Post#126027    
    In response to SteelCity

I'm not sure how much money the PL puts up, but I would not be happy if the league gives a big subsidy to any of the schools who don't draw well to allow them to play in a third-tier tournament.




 
Bison137 
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03-15-12 12:22 AM - Post#126139    
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American lost by 17 points tonight in front of an official crowd of 256. They probably netted about $2500 - which leaves them (and possibly the PL) with a loss in the neighborhood of $25,000.




 
BUPilot 
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03-15-12 12:39 AM - Post#126144    
    In response to Bison137

That type of a financial hit should put a quick end to PL teams signing up to host any future games in those tournaments.
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Bison137 
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03-15-12 12:51 AM - Post#126146    
    In response to BUPilot

  • BUPilot Said:
That type of a financial hit should put a quick end to PL teams signing up to host any future games in those tournaments.



Generally agree. However Bucknell likely wouldn't take a big loss as a host. Without students, I think BU could likely draw at least 2500 - with a net of $20,000 on ticket sales plus concessions. Might lose some money, but probably not a large amount. If the PL is indeed contributing, then they might break even.




 
PLHoopsFan 
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03-15-12 10:37 AM - Post#126208    
    In response to Bison137

After last night's debacle at American in front of 256 brave souls, my guess is the PL pulls out of any "support" for any team that wants to play in those tournaments.

I know Navy will also only stick to the classics... Personally, these tournaments are a joke.

 
Bison89 
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03-15-12 01:00 PM - Post#126250    
    In response to PLHoopsFan

256??? I thought that 256 was a typo, and the real number was 2,560. Unbelievable. . .
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Bison137 
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03-15-12 08:34 PM - Post#126408    
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  • Bison89 Said:
256??? I thought that 256 was a typo, and the real number was 2,560. Unbelievable. . .




Here's an article from the Washington Post - complete with three "crowd" pictures - on the sparse attendance at Bender.


American University draws non-crowd for CIT opener




 
BUPilot 
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03-15-12 08:53 PM - Post#126415    
    In response to Bison137

I'm sorry but those pictures and that type of "attendance" is simply pathetic for a "post season tournament".

I wonder if the A.U. fans will start blaming the PL for lack of community interest in their games.
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mattie g 
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03-15-12 09:10 PM - Post#126422    
    In response to BUPilot

I remember the first time I walked into Bender during grad school - I honestly thought I was in the wrong place and had mistakenly found my way to a local high school gym.


 
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