MrPhillie
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03-16-12 10:28 PM - Post#126629
In response to bison63
Agree. Lehigh actually allowed Duke to hang around. Duke may say they didn't play their best game, but really, neither did Lehigh. CJ definitely makes plays that most guys do not make. He can be cocky, but he is good.
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bison63
PhD Student
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03-16-12 10:29 PM - Post#126630
In response to bison1734
The thing that really struck me about Lehigh was confidence. CJ and the rest believed they were going to win from the opening tip and never relented.
That really is the key. LU was not just happy to be there, they wanted to win. We were the same in '05 and'06 and vs AZ. Last year we went to DC and talked the talk, and read all of that press baloney that we could pull the upset (which was based on what a different BU team did years earlier)but I never got the idea that the guys thought they were there to win.
Wow, next year could be really special in the PL. How do we stop CJ without BC?
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JPM
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03-16-12 10:51 PM - Post#126636
In response to baudolino
They won basically with the same in-your-face aggressive M2M defense that they beat us with.
Bucknell beat Arizona playing tough M2M as well. I guess a PL team doesn't necessarily have to play a match zone to beat a high-major team.
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KenZ
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03-16-12 10:58 PM - Post#126642
In response to JPM
Congtrats to Lehigh on a great win. Hope both teams can keep it going on Sunday.
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bison63
PhD Student
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03-16-12 11:40 PM - Post#126652
In response to KenZ
Does anybody else, when Dr Bret Reid answers an interviewer's question, get the impression that they are listening to his doctoral thesis? lol
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baudolino
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03-16-12 11:54 PM - Post#126660
In response to bison63
Does anybody else, when Dr Bret Reid answers an interviewer's question, get the impression that they are listening to his doctoral thesis? lol
Pretty much. I almost expected some Powerpoint slides to pop out from the background.
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Bison89
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03-16-12 11:58 PM - Post#126662
In response to bison63
OK, I have to ask; was this the biggest win in PL history? I think that given the 15 vs. 2 seeding, it just might be.
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BUFan
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03-17-12 12:03 AM - Post#126664
In response to Bison89
1 and 1a. No need to put one over the other. From seed lines and the fact it was Duke, you could say Lehigh. On the flip side, most people thought this Duke team was overrated, while KU in 2005 was penciled into many final fours.
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JPM
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03-17-12 12:10 AM - Post#126668
In response to Bison1999
atlanta - I read your post and had a moment of cognitive dissonance; I was momentarily and truly unable to process the thought "Who would Lehigh rather face in round 2."
Having re-grouped, I think Lehigh would give ND fits.
Go Bison!
Top 10 post of the year...
Given Lehigh's bracket and CJM's performance against Duke, they could make a run similar to Davidson's with Steph Curry..
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baudolino
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03-17-12 12:13 AM - Post#126670
In response to JPM
Given Lehigh's bracket and CJM's performance against Duke, they could make a run similar to Davidson's with Steph Curry..
Actually, now that I'm watching the ND-Xavier game, I think LU matches up much better vs. ND than vs. Xavier.
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bison63
PhD Student
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Reg: 01-23-06
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03-17-12 07:49 AM - Post#126683
In response to Bison89
OK, I have to ask; was this the biggest win in PL history? I think that given the 15 vs. 2 seeding, it just might be.
In terms of magnitude, I agree with the 1 and 1A approach, but in terms of impact on the public this one is bigger. That is because of the way the TV package works now as opposed to the way it worked in 2005. In 2005, if you were in PA or Kansas you got the BU/Kansas game. Most of the rest of the country was relegated to the internet telecast (a new thing at the time, and one for which I was extremely grateful )or, as I am sure was the case with most people you got the CBS updates and "look-ins."
Last night, LU was on in prime time on the CBS network and had to have played to a significantly larger audience than that which watched our win vs KU in 2005. For that reason it is bigger, and it will be a terrific recruiting aid for them. While we will ride on their coattails, and have our own good story to tell, they for the moment are 1 and we are 1A.
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HuskyColonial
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Re: Lehigh NCAA
03-17-12 08:02 AM - Post#126686
In response to BUPilot
Lots of nice comments about CJ from the crew at operations central. Hard not to recognize him as the best player on the court after that game however. It was a national coming out party for him.
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bison63
PhD Student
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03-17-12 08:43 AM - Post#126689
In response to HuskyColonial
After LU lost to American they must have taken a good look in the mirror, because from that point on they have been something else. No doubt the best team in the league right now. Biggest difference, I thought in the 2nd half was that Knutsen, after sitting much of the first half, really came alive. McKnight, Hamilton and Adams all had their moments, so Duke had more to handle than just CJ.
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Bison89
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03-17-12 09:13 AM - Post#126690
In response to bison63
OK, I have to ask; was this the biggest win in PL history? I think that given the 15 vs. 2 seeding, it just might be.
In terms of magnitude, I agree with the 1 and 1A approach, but in terms of impact on the public this one is bigger. That is because of the way the TV package works now as opposed to the way it worked in 2005. In 2005, if you were in PA or Kansas you got the BU/Kansas game. Most of the rest of the country was relegated to the internet telecast (a new thing at the time, and one for which I was extremely grateful )or, as I am sure was the case with most people you got the CBS updates and "look-ins."
Last night, LU was on in prime time on the CBS network and had to have played to a significantly larger audience than that which watched our win vs KU in 2005. For that reason it is bigger, and it will be a terrific recruiting aid for them. While we will ride on their coattails, and have our own good story to tell, they for the moment are 1 and we are 1A.
63, I had not thought about the TV coverage. Yes, you are right. Significantly more people probably saw the Lehigh game.
I just love that it was Duke. It wasn't Maryland, Florida, nor Boston College. It was ACC and national power Duke. What are Billy P and Dickie V going to say about the Mid Majors now?
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BUFan
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03-17-12 09:32 AM - Post#126691
In response to Bison89
Sports Center just showed Lehigh students celebrating in the streets on campus. How many of them could've named a single player on their basketball team before tonight? Hopefully for the league's sake a few of them look up directions to Stabler Arena before November.
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Bison89
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03-17-12 09:39 AM - Post#126692
In response to BUFan
I was reading Sports Illustrated online and was very impressed by this CJ quote:
"It means a lot as a team, a family and as the Patriot League in general," McCollum said. "We wanted to come out here and protect this team and this family, get the win and we did that tonight."
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Bison2002
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03-17-12 09:41 AM - Post#126693
In response to BUFan
Congrats to Lehigh!! So happy to see the PL knock down another giant.
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Bison2002
Masters Student
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03-17-12 09:44 AM - Post#126694
In response to JPM
They won basically with the same in-your-face aggressive M2M defense that they beat us with.
Bucknell beat Arizona playing tough M2M as well. I guess a PL team doesn't necessarily have to play a match zone to beat a high-major team.
Agreed. Tried to say this last year after our loss to UConn. Zone variations have their advantages for sure, but it comes down to who wants and it more and execution of your system.
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BUFan
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03-17-12 10:04 AM - Post#126697
In response to Bison2002
Lehigh is 7:45 Sunday night, so no Bucknell conflict.
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bison63
PhD Student
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03-17-12 10:30 AM - Post#126700
In response to Bison2002
They won basically with the same in-your-face aggressive M2M defense that they beat us with.
Bucknell beat Arizona playing tough M2M as well. I guess a PL team doesn't necessarily have to play a match zone to beat a high-major team.
Agreed. Tried to say this last year after our loss to UConn. Zone variations have their advantages for sure, but it comes down to who wants and it more and execution of your system.
We'll leave this one open for further discussion at another time. For now, congrats to LU.
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