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Username Post: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?        (Topic#13706)
Tiger69 
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08-06-12 07:26 PM - Post#131472    

Neither Barrett nor Connelly have yet lived up to expectations. Significant improvement by either in the offseason would be a big boost to our title prospects this season. It is encouraging to learn that Connelly is playing with Pawel Buczak this summer. Buczak was a huge overachiever at Princeton and will hopefully help Brendan with some of his possession problems.

Does anyone know what Barrett is doing this summer and what the state of his season-ending injury is?

 
gokinsmen 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-07-12 09:43 PM - Post#131489    
    In response to Tiger69

Not sure what he's doing this summer (though last summer he played in the Delco Pro-Am). I rather have him do one-on-one skill work with Earl, who did wonders for Bray's game.

Barrett had stress fractures in his foot (a la Kyle Casey), which should be plenty healed by now...but are frequently recurring injuries. He didn't rush back last year, though, which improves his long-term prognosis.

 
gokinsmen 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-07-12 09:50 PM - Post#131490    
    In response to gokinsmen

As for next season's breakout player, I'm definitely picking Clay Wilson (a separated shoulder hurt his progress as a freshman). MH said as much in one of the year-end interviews, and in the local news clip Solomon posted a while back, Wilson said he was "competing with one other kid" for a starting role.

I assumed the other kid was Sherburne, who showed an ability to slash to the rim. But who knows? Maybe Jimmy will back up TJ and Hazel or Clement is the "other kid" competing for the off-guard role.

As for Connolly, I want to see him make quicker moves in the low post. He was too slow and hesitant last season, allowing defenders to help and collapse on him. Catch, fake and shoot as quickly as possible. That said, the Darrow/Connolly platoon is fine as is.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-08-12 11:58 AM - Post#131492    
    In response to gokinsmen

Since Hazel withdrew from school last spring for personal reasons, I'm not sure if he will be enrolled in the fall. He may choose to re-enter for the second semester. I haven't heard anything more about this since it occurred.

 
Albert08 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-08-12 12:07 PM - Post#131493    
    In response to Tiger69

The coaches will certainly look to Clay Wilson to take some of the perimeter shots that Davis took last year. You can't expect Wilson (or anyone else on the roster) to replace Davis, only to mitigate the loss. If he can contribute 8-10 ppg, it will be a big boost to the offense.

If Chris Clement has anything to show us, he'd better do it this year. Without Davis consuming 33 minutes a game in the backcourt, he has his chance. But I've never been very impressed with his skills, so I frankly don't expect a "breakthrough" from him.

I will be interested to see if Bobby Garbade can contribute at the center of the offense, either as a backup to Connolly or on the court with him at the same time. He was very productive in high school in a fairly competitive league.

If Wilson and Garbade can step up, the sophomore class, rather than the juniors, will be the ones we look to in the post-Hummer era.

 
Albert08 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-08-12 12:08 PM - Post#131494    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

In Jon Solomon's interview with Henderson a couple of weeks ago, I think he expects Hazel to return for the second semester.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-08-12 12:54 PM - Post#131495    
    In response to Albert08

Thanks. I haven't had the time to listen. I wish there were written transcripts...

 
gokinsmen 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-08-12 09:57 PM - Post#131506    
    In response to Albert08

Barring injury, I don't see any minutes for Garbade. Not with Darrow/Connolly set in stone at center. Garbade's time to prove himself will come next year.

As always, I love Clement's handle but he hasn't flashed anything more. That said, Bray's lone question mark is his handle and ability to break the full-court press, so I wouldn't mind having Clement on the court with him. It could work as Bray's size allows him to guard opposing SGs while Clement (or Wilson or Sherburne) guards the opposing PG.

My money's still on Wilson to earn the starting off-guard role by Ivy play. But maybe Clement can crack the rotation this year with DD's departure.

 
SRP 
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08-16-12 05:53 AM - Post#131624    
    In response to gokinsmen

Barrett was just hitting his stride when he got hurt. The Tigers could definitely use some more of the Kirilenko impersonation he put on against Lafayette.

If Sherburne is healthy, I don't see how he doesn't start with Bray. Clement has not wowed me to date, but there's no law that says he can't have improved this summer. The most important upside potential in the backcourt is Bray, though. If he's worked on dribbling and passing against pressure and on his mid-range game, he could be really productive. Somebody back there is going to have to take those late-in-the-shot-clock jumpers that DD used to hit to bail out the offense when a possession broke down.

 
gokinsmen 
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Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-27-12 08:36 PM - Post#131839    
    In response to SRP

In the brief interview posted on the official site, MH made it seem like Wilson and Clement were the ones duking it out for starting SG.

"We're gonna have to put the ball in the basket. And in Chris and Clay you have two guys who can make a shot and have proven they can make a shot in practice."

I guess Sherburne is backing up Bray then? He showed some nice slashing ability, but with DD gone, the team needs outside shooting more than anything. So I guess this would make more sense.

 
Albert08 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-28-12 11:23 AM - Post#131845    
    In response to gokinsmen

In his pre-Spain trip interview, Henderson mentioned Bobby Garbade along with Barrett, Koon and Darrow as the forwards who will be part of the "inside out" game this year. So I am not buying your "no minutes for Garbade" argument.

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-28-12 05:00 PM - Post#131847    
    In response to Albert08

Most recent post on Jon Solomon's Princeton Basketball site shows a somewhat beefier, longer haired Will Barrett with some encouraging comments about his improvement. That optimism was offset somewhat by the news of injuries to T J Bray (will not play in Spain) and Jimmy Sherbourne. We have a lot of possibilities for this season. But injuries could slow our ability to find the most effective unit.

Edited by Tiger69 on 08-28-12 05:01 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
gokinsmen 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-30-12 02:35 AM - Post#131905    
    In response to Albert08

  • Albert08 Said:
In his pre-Spain trip interview, Henderson mentioned Bobby Garbade along with Barrett, Koon and Darrow as the forwards who will be part of the "inside out" game this year. So I am not buying your "no minutes for Garbade" argument.


MH did mention Garbade in passing, but he also mentioned Clement in passing last season. And Clement didn't break the rotation. That wasn't surprising as there simply wasn't room in the guard rotation...until this season.

Garbade has four bigs unquestionably ahead of him (Hummer, Darrow, Connolly, Koon). And then you have Barrett. I'm sure MH likes Garbade's game, but I wouldn't put much stock in a passing mention.

That said, even getting regular garbage time, heavy TCNJ minutes and one or two "real" stints (due to foul trouble) would be a big step forward for Garbade.

 
gokinsmen 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
08-30-12 03:00 AM - Post#131906    
    In response to Tiger69

  • Tiger69 Said:
Most recent post on Jon Solomon's Princeton Basketball site shows a somewhat beefier, longer haired Will Barrett with some encouraging comments about his improvement. That optimism was offset somewhat by the news of injuries to T J Bray (will not play in Spain) and Jimmy Sherbourne. We have a lot of possibilities for this season. But injuries could slow our ability to find the most effective unit.



As long as the injuries aren't serious, this could be a small blessing in disguise. Without Bray and Sherburne, Wilson and Clement will be forced to play heavy minutes against professional competition. Even if they get creamed, it'll be a good learning experience.

About time Barrett put on some weight. I'll be looking out for this season's official height/weight measurements to see how much.

 
gokinsmen 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
09-01-12 10:54 PM - Post#131965    
    In response to gokinsmen

For what it's worth, Clement had a very Bray-like game running the point in TJ's place against the Spanish pro team they played yesterday:

http://twitter.com/PUTIGERS/status/24164 0525277560...

Clement's line: 5p(2-4)/5a/6r/4s/3to in 33 minutes. 2 fouls committed, 4 fouls drawn.

(Also, did Koon start at SG? Judging by his lack of rebounds and high TOs I would guess so. Might as well experiment now...)

 
gokinsmen 
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Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
09-03-12 04:12 AM - Post#131989    
    In response to gokinsmen

An even better stat line for Clement today (albeit against weaker competition):

http://twitter.com/PUTIGERS/status/24224 9832599810...

Both MH and Earl have praised Clement's play. BE specifically mentioned his ability to handle the press. Is Clement the favorite to start alongside Bray? It would seem so.

 
Albert08 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
09-26-12 04:16 PM - Post#132850    
    In response to gokinsmen

The 2012-2013 roster has been publicly announced and Jimmy Sherburne is pulling a "Will Barrett" and taking the year off to recover from the shoulder injury.

http://www.goprincetontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?...

The guard spot will be a little light, with only Bray with significant experience. And he seems to be having some lingering problems with his knee. These two developments may require Mike Washington, Jr. to get up to speed quickly.

 
gokinsmen 
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Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
09-26-12 05:34 PM - Post#132852    
    In response to Albert08

Sherburne's red-shirt year, like Barrett's, feels like a blessing in disguise. Another veteran who will help fill the Hummer void next season (not to mention get more minutes for himself). Also, with Sherburne out, I guess Clement is officially a starter. I like it.

Not sure how concerned to be about Bray's knee. After Hummer, he's the team's Most Important Player. Then again, he had knee issues last year too and we didn't even notice. He didn't play in Spain but seemed to be walking around perfectly fine. It felt more precautionary and an opportunity for Clement and Wilson to play more.

Speaking of which, Wilson didn't have a good Spain trip, but I think he's still the 3rd guard for now. I say "I think" because Koon is listed as a guard (!). Don't know about that one...

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
09-26-12 06:42 PM - Post#132853    
    In response to gokinsmen

Mike Washington is a coach's son and scored a lot in HS. Don't know anything about his passing and defense. What is the prospect that he could get meaningful time in his freshman year?

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Possible 2012-13 breakthroughs?
09-26-12 06:48 PM - Post#132854    
    In response to Tiger69

With Sherburne's departure for this season there is also the prospect that we go from too few guards this year to too many next year with at least two apparently strong guard recruits in 2013.

 
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