internetter
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03-20-14 02:06 PM - Post#167630
Granted his release to transfer, a tweet claims
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H78
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03-20-14 02:14 PM - Post#167633
In response to internetter
Is this just bad for Cornell, or bad for the Ivies as well?
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cornellfan4
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03-20-14 03:52 PM - Post#167649
In response to H78
And the dominoes start to fall. Hopefully Cressler did Cornell a favor by the AD realizing they have to fire Courtney and hire Donahue now
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Chip Bayers
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03-20-14 11:17 PM - Post#167700
In response to cornellfan4
Donahue will make $1M+ per year to sit on his butt for the next two years. Is Cornell going to match that?
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umbrellaman
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03-21-14 12:07 AM - Post#167702
In response to Chip Bayers
Chip, would anyone have to match that? The contract is only good if he doesn't coach anywhere? If so, he won't be going to Penn, either.
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H78
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03-21-14 12:19 AM - Post#167705
In response to umbrellaman
Interesting point. Although, he can probably get Bruce Pearl's old gig at ESPN, right?
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cornellfan4
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03-21-14 12:41 AM - Post#167709
In response to H78
Didn't realize that is how those contracts usually work, no one is going to pay him near that though
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H78
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03-21-14 12:51 AM - Post#167710
In response to cornellfan4
That's why I suggested me may work in broadcasting as an analyst, because it probably doesn't violate his contract. I could be wrong, though.
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Chip Bayers
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03-21-14 01:07 AM - Post#167712
In response to H78
My understanding of coaching contracts is that they only get voided if you take another coaching job. Turns out Donahue has two years left on his deal.
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palestra38
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03-21-14 01:30 PM - Post#167752
In response to Chip Bayers
I of course would have to read the contract, but unless college contracts are different from pro contracts, the school that fires a coach is responsible for paying the difference between the contracted salary and the new salary. I don't believe they get out of the contract unless there is something akin to a restrictive covenant, which I have never seen in this type of contract. But without seeing the contract, this is only a guess.
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palestra38
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03-21-14 01:33 PM - Post#167754
In response to palestra38
Just by way of illustration, this is from the Wikipedia article on Mike Shanahan, who was just fired by the 'Skins:
"Redskins owner Daniel Snyder fired Shanahan on December 30, 2013. The team finished 3-13 in the 2013 season, and was in last place in the NFC East division 3 of 4 seasons. Shanahan would have had a $7M salary for 2014, what would have been his last year on his contract. If Shanahan is able to find another coaching job, the new salary is deducted from his $7M, the difference is paid by Redskins.[20]"
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mountainred
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03-23-14 06:27 PM - Post#167984
In response to palestra38
palestra38, I think that's the standard coaching contract and I can't imagine Steve's deal at BC being any different. But, like you, I haven't read it and so don't know for certain.
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mountainred
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03-23-14 06:35 PM - Post#167985
In response to H78
Is this just bad for Cornell, or bad for the Ivies as well?
It's not good for the league if a player with Nolan's talent leaves, but all it really means is the league's worst team won't get much better.
Cornell is going to need one of their freshman to step up, or a ton of the Robert Hatter Experience, to have any deep threat next season.
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cornellfan4
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03-23-14 07:06 PM - Post#167991
In response to mountainred
And by deep threat you mean win more than 5 games
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mountainred
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03-24-14 09:49 PM - Post#168157
In response to cornellfan4
And by deep threat you mean win more than 5 games
Actually, I meant someone who was a credible three point shooter. Hatter is the best returning three point shooter (34.7%) and he was streaky as anything. The "hot hand" may be a myth, but 80% of his makes came in literally five games.
I wouldn't be surprised if Cornell won more than five games next year, and I'm pretty down on the program. Five wins isn't very hard. Only three D1 teams failed to win that many.
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H78
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03-24-14 10:04 PM - Post#168166
In response to mountainred
What's the word on Shonn Miller's return?
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cornellfan4
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03-24-14 10:36 PM - Post#168183
In response to H78
What's the word on Shonn Miller's return?
Nothing yet, at this point I just hope he doesnt transfer
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H78
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03-25-14 12:55 AM - Post#168259
In response to cornellfan4
What's the word on Shonn Miller's return?
Nothing yet, at this point I just hope he doesnt transfer
I wonder how many people (at Cornell and elsewhere) have him on auto-dial?
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mountainred
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03-25-14 08:13 AM - Post#168272
In response to H78
You'd think if Miller was going to transfer, that he would have done last year -- so his mandatory year off coincided with his recuperation. Can't imagine he wants two full years off.
Word on his recuperation was understandably quiet. From Barry and Eric's broadcasts, he seemed to be back practicing with the team.
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Penn94
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03-26-14 10:57 AM - Post#168410
In response to mountainred
I would think that if he transfers now, he could ask for the waiver of the one-year break, yes? Since I am assuming he didn't participate in any team activities this year?
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