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Username Post: Cressler        (Topic#16503)
internetter 
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03-20-14 01:06 PM - Post#167630    

Granted his release to transfer, a tweet claims
west coast fan


 
H78 
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03-20-14 01:14 PM - Post#167633    
    In response to internetter

Is this just bad for Cornell, or bad for the Ivies as well?

 
cornellfan4 
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03-20-14 02:52 PM - Post#167649    
    In response to H78

And the dominoes start to fall. Hopefully Cressler did Cornell a favor by the AD realizing they have to fire Courtney and hire Donahue now

 
Chip Bayers 
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03-20-14 10:17 PM - Post#167700    
    In response to cornellfan4

Donahue will make $1M+ per year to sit on his butt for the next two years. Is Cornell going to match that?


 
umbrellaman 
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03-20-14 11:07 PM - Post#167702    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Chip, would anyone have to match that? The contract is only good if he doesn't coach anywhere? If so, he won't be going to Penn, either.

 
H78 
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03-20-14 11:19 PM - Post#167705    
    In response to umbrellaman

Interesting point. Although, he can probably get Bruce Pearl's old gig at ESPN, right?

 
cornellfan4 
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03-20-14 11:41 PM - Post#167709    
    In response to H78

Didn't realize that is how those contracts usually work, no one is going to pay him near that though

 
H78 
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03-20-14 11:51 PM - Post#167710    
    In response to cornellfan4

That's why I suggested me may work in broadcasting as an analyst, because it probably doesn't violate his contract. I could be wrong, though.

 
Chip Bayers 
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03-21-14 12:07 AM - Post#167712    
    In response to H78

My understanding of coaching contracts is that they only get voided if you take another coaching job. Turns out Donahue has two years left on his deal.


 
palestra38 
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03-21-14 12:30 PM - Post#167752    
    In response to Chip Bayers

I of course would have to read the contract, but unless college contracts are different from pro contracts, the school that fires a coach is responsible for paying the difference between the contracted salary and the new salary. I don't believe they get out of the contract unless there is something akin to a restrictive covenant, which I have never seen in this type of contract. But without seeing the contract, this is only a guess.

 
palestra38 
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03-21-14 12:33 PM - Post#167754    
    In response to palestra38

Just by way of illustration, this is from the Wikipedia article on Mike Shanahan, who was just fired by the 'Skins:

"Redskins owner Daniel Snyder fired Shanahan on December 30, 2013. The team finished 3-13 in the 2013 season, and was in last place in the NFC East division 3 of 4 seasons. Shanahan would have had a $7M salary for 2014, what would have been his last year on his contract. If Shanahan is able to find another coaching job, the new salary is deducted from his $7M, the difference is paid by Redskins.[20]"

 
mountainred 
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03-23-14 05:27 PM - Post#167984    
    In response to palestra38

palestra38, I think that's the standard coaching contract and I can't imagine Steve's deal at BC being any different. But, like you, I haven't read it and so don't know for certain.


 
mountainred 
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03-23-14 05:35 PM - Post#167985    
    In response to H78

  • H78 Said:
Is this just bad for Cornell, or bad for the Ivies as well?



It's not good for the league if a player with Nolan's talent leaves, but all it really means is the league's worst team won't get much better.

Cornell is going to need one of their freshman to step up, or a ton of the Robert Hatter Experience, to have any deep threat next season.

 
cornellfan4 
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03-23-14 06:06 PM - Post#167991    
    In response to mountainred

And by deep threat you mean win more than 5 games

 
mountainred 
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03-24-14 08:49 PM - Post#168157    
    In response to cornellfan4

  • cornellfan4 Said:
And by deep threat you mean win more than 5 games



Actually, I meant someone who was a credible three point shooter. Hatter is the best returning three point shooter (34.7%) and he was streaky as anything. The "hot hand" may be a myth, but 80% of his makes came in literally five games.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cornell won more than five games next year, and I'm pretty down on the program. Five wins isn't very hard. Only three D1 teams failed to win that many.

 
H78 
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03-24-14 09:04 PM - Post#168166    
    In response to mountainred

What's the word on Shonn Miller's return?

 
cornellfan4 
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03-24-14 09:36 PM - Post#168183    
    In response to H78

  • H78 Said:
What's the word on Shonn Miller's return?



Nothing yet, at this point I just hope he doesnt transfer

 
H78 
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03-24-14 11:55 PM - Post#168259    
    In response to cornellfan4

  • cornellfan4 Said:
  • H78 Said:
What's the word on Shonn Miller's return?


Nothing yet, at this point I just hope he doesnt transfer


I wonder how many people (at Cornell and elsewhere) have him on auto-dial?

 
mountainred 
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03-25-14 07:13 AM - Post#168272    
    In response to H78

You'd think if Miller was going to transfer, that he would have done last year -- so his mandatory year off coincided with his recuperation. Can't imagine he wants two full years off.

Word on his recuperation was understandably quiet. From Barry and Eric's broadcasts, he seemed to be back practicing with the team.

 
Penn94 
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03-26-14 09:57 AM - Post#168410    
    In response to mountainred

I would think that if he transfers now, he could ask for the waiver of the one-year break, yes? Since I am assuming he didn't participate in any team activities this year?


 
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