Local Observer
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09-02-15 10:33 AM - Post#191960
Chambers out a year with torn ACL
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye -on-...
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AsiaSunset
Postdoc
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Reg: 11-21-04
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09-02-15 10:58 AM - Post#191964
In response to Local Observer
A crusher. Great leader/great player. Hope he recovers for next season.
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cantab_hoops
Freshman
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Reg: 03-21-14
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09-02-15 11:15 AM - Post#191969
In response to AsiaSunset
Hate to see that, though if there is any silver lining, it potentially sets Harvard up very well for 2016 with the incoming frontline and wing talent and with the added experience Tommy Mccarthy is now poised to get this year. I think someone posted (jokingly, I think) in an earlier thread that Siyani should sit out a year so he could share a year with the 2016 incoming class.
That said, best wishes to Siyani in his recovery. Harvard will definitely be thin at point this year.
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igetzbuckets
Sophomore
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Reg: 07-01-13
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09-02-15 11:16 AM - Post#191970
In response to cantab_hoops
This will definitely affect the Bryce Aiken recruitment. Have to think Michigan and Yale now have a better shot. Too bad. Aiken kid would fit in perfectly with the other 2016 recruits
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mrjames
Professor
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Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
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09-02-15 11:20 AM - Post#191971
In response to igetzbuckets
Yeah, no.
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SRP
Postdoc
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09-02-15 08:48 PM - Post#192000
In response to mrjames
Tough break for Chambers and Harvard. Really puts the onus on the other contenders to take advantage this season.
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Penndemonium
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-29-04
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09-04-15 02:17 AM - Post#192040
In response to SRP
I'm curious of this strategy of pulling players out of school to preserve their eligibility. I realize that the player may have made the choice, but I have not seen this used in the league until the last few years with Harvard.
I'm not opposed to it, but I think most players haven't considered it as an option - if for no reason other than the cost of tuition and possibly a school's willingness to refund or defer tuition.
Any insights? Is this practice something players and schools have commonly elected? It seems more like a scholarship school tactic, although I recognize that there is probably nothing technically wrong with it.
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mrjames
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09-04-15 07:41 AM - Post#192042
In response to Penndemonium
It's been used a ton in the past. Football would always have it easier than basketball, though, because one semester sports could just turn a skipped spring semester into an extra fall semester to get the extra year.
Harvard got screwed by this when I was in school as Cusworth got injured too late in the year to drop out for the full year, leaving him with just a semester of "Harvard" eligibility. This was also back when exams were still post-Christmas. So, he played the first semester, missing the final 10 games of the year (all Ivy contests). Harvard went 3-7 down the stretch and Frank Sullivan was fired.
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SomeGuy
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09-04-15 10:01 AM - Post#192046
In response to Penndemonium
Princeton has had a bunch of players do it over the years. Columbia's Rosenberg is an obvious recent case as well.
Mike James can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I think that some of the schools in the league bring this issue on themselves through their own rules. At Penn, I believe that you can take five years to graduate if you get hurt, and play your four years of eligibility without having to leave school. So I don't recall any Penn players leaving school for a year due to injury, though lots of players have stuck around for a fifth year after getting hurt.
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AsiaSunset
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Reg: 11-21-04
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09-04-15 10:11 AM - Post#192047
In response to Penndemonium
Chambers isn't paying any tuition this year and in all likelihood will be set up with a job at some Harvard grads law firm or investment firm earning more than the average 20 year old with few real business skills, with the additional benefit of liberal work hours allowing him maximum opportunity to rehabilitate the injury.
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Tiger69
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Reg: 11-23-04
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09-04-15 12:26 PM - Post#192067
In response to AsiaSunset
Actually, I think that taking a year off, or even two, in academic midstream is a great idea, whether it is an injured athlete or not. A year off campus often enhances a student's later experience after his real world year off. I wish I had done so between sophomore and junior years. Peace Corps, internship, travel -- the options are endless depending on one's situation. The payoff is that the student returns to campus more mature, with more perspective and possibly with an attitude to take the best advantage of what is available on campus in his/her final year(s) on campus. The University should aid and encourage students to try this option.
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Old Bear
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09-04-15 05:32 PM - Post#192083
In response to Tiger69
Arnie Duncan did without an injury. I don't think he is a very good singer, though he might be.
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iabhoops88
Sophomore
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Loc: Los Angeles
Reg: 01-26-13
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09-09-15 08:12 PM - Post#192192
In response to Old Bear
From a 2008 blog post by Harvard assistant coach at the time:
"With a head coaching change and a bevy of new players, Duncan took the next year off to – take your pick: 1) go back to Chicago to work on his Senior Thesis (which even elicited a mention by Alex Wolff in SI) or 2) give his body another year to mature, allow the young players a year to develop and, finally, play his senior year with his best friend on the team, Keith Webster (future Utah Jazz draft pick)."
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