KenZ
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01-12-16 08:42 PM - Post#199407
out for season
http://d9sports.com/tough-break-ccs-sesti na-to-mis...
not sure why there is any question about medical redshirt eligibilty. can anyone enlighten me on this?
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Bison137
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01-12-16 09:29 PM - Post#199410
In response to KenZ
In terms of NCAA rules, there is no question at all that he qualifies for a medical hardship waiver ("redshirt"). The only questions are (a) whether he wants to return for a 5th year; (b) whether Bucknell wants to offer him a scholarship for a 5th year; and (c) whether he and BU agree on an academic program to justify a 5th year.
Bucknell has been tougher than other PL schools in signing off on a 5th year. They made Tyree and Fitz jump through a lot of hoops. That is one reason why LU, HC, etc have more redshirt football players in a normal year than Bucknell has in 15 years.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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01-13-16 02:22 PM - Post#199442
In response to Bison137
Such a disappointment---I really liked the little we got to see of his game.
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Bison137
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01-13-16 02:36 PM - Post#199443
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Yes, definitely a disappointment. But in the long run, if he plays a 5th year, it could turn into a very good thing. He showed the type of talent where he could develop into a very good player. But his small school background and limited AAU play made it unlikely he would gave been a big contributor this year. But imagine what he might do in his 5th year.
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Bison89
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Re: Nate Sestina
01-14-16 06:08 AM - Post#199471
In response to KenZ
Sorry to here about Sestina's injury. College is so short. It is a shame to lose o er half a season. Luckily, it is not a career ending injury.
BTW, this quote from the article made me think, h#ll yes: “As a coach, you have to fit your system to your players,†Davis said.
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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01-15-16 02:21 PM - Post#199535
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Disappointing news on the injury but just of what the 2019-2020 starting lineup could look like:
PG 
SG Toomer (SR)
SG Robertson (SR)
PF Moore Jr (SR)
C/PF Sestina (RS/SR)
The 2019-2020 season is really far away but it's always fun to look ahead. Assuming Sestina gets his redshirt year and these guys play for 4 years at bucknell, that season has a lot of potential. The future of bison basketball is very promising.
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bison63
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01-15-16 07:36 PM - Post#199551
In response to Bucknellbisonfan21
I kinda hope we are not starting 4 seniors, and suspect that will not be the case. But I het your point.
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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08-24-16 09:33 AM - Post#209854
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I see Sestina is listed as a Sophmore on the bucknell roster. Did his bid for a medical redshirt year get denied or is it still a work in progress? Or is he not even trying to get another year?
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BisonRoadWarrior
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08-24-16 09:51 AM - Post#209856
In response to Bucknellbisonfan21
I see Sestina is listed as a Sophmore on the bucknell roster. Did his bid for a medical redshirt year get denied or is it still a work in progress? Or is he not even trying to get another year?
I'm pretty sure Bucknell lists athletes' academic year, not which year of their eligibility they're on.
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Bison137
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Nate Sestina
08-24-16 10:16 AM - Post#209858
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
I see Sestina is listed as a Sophmore on the bucknell roster. Did his bid for a medical redshirt year get denied or is it still a work in progress? Or is he not even trying to get another year?
I'm pretty sure Bucknell lists athletes' academic year, not which year of their eligibility they're on.
That is correct. Fitzpatrick, Tyree, etc - plus athletes in other sports - have always been listed on the roster by academic year. Also Sestina has three more years to go through the PL process to get an extra year. He has passed the medical hurdle, which was never in doubt, but I'm not sure if he has done the second part yet. That requires him to develop an academic case for staying a 5th year and having it approved by President Bravman. Once that happens, the PL rubber-stamps it.
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Bison137
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08-24-16 11:04 AM - Post#209862
In response to Bison137
One issue on medical hardship waivers is that Bucknell has been tougher on students seeking to play a 5th year than have other PL schools. For example, in football Lehigh, Lafayette, Holy Cross, and Fordham have each had at least 30 5th year players over the past 15 years. Bucknell has had none, even though they have likely had over 100 who were eligible.
It took Tyree and Fitzpatrick a long time to get their 5th year approved by the University.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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08-24-16 01:09 PM - Post#209868
In response to Bison137
On principle, it should be a slam dunk if the athlete is getting a masters degree...but is it even difficult in those circumstances?
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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05-10-17 10:55 AM - Post#229169
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Looks like Nate is indeed planning on playing 5th year, hopefully with the Bison.
https://twitter.com/natesestina23/status/ 862300914...
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HuskyColonial
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05-10-17 10:14 PM - Post#229196
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That's great news. So much more porential.
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Bison89
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05-11-17 08:12 AM - Post#229198
In response to Bucknellbisonfan21
Nate has the potential to be a very solid contributor. The extra year at Bucknell should pay off for him and the team as a whole.
How does that work in the PL? Does the player have to pursue a masters degree or a second BS/BA?
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HuskyColonial
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05-11-17 08:44 AM - Post#229203
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The team certainly benefited from Fitzgerald a few years ago even though he contributed in a supporting way.
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Bison54
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05-11-17 09:36 AM - Post#229204
In response to HuskyColonial
IIRC his "5th" year he was more than supporting player after Mike, Joe and Bryson graduated
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Bison137
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05-11-17 09:57 AM - Post#229207
In response to Bison89
How does that work in the PL? Does the player have to pursue a masters degree or a second BS/BA?
It can be either, but it has to be approved by the school's President and then rubber-stamped by the PL. Bucknell has been a lot tougher on athletes wanting to play a 5th year than most of the other league members. Some will recall that it took many months for Tyree's application to go through. I believe that Fitz's request took awhile also.
For football, some PL athletes simply take their final spring semester off, and then return for the fall to play football and complete their degree. Most PL schools have at least three 5th year football players every year. Bucknell, in contrast, has not had one for about 15 years - unless you count AJ Pompliano, who missed two seasons while serving in Iraq as part of the Pennsylvania National Guard.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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05-11-17 03:47 PM - Post#229237
In response to Bison137
I'm not sure we should interpret a light-hearted tweet as full confirmation of his intentions and league approval.
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Bison137
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05-11-17 06:55 PM - Post#229241
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
I'm not sure we should interpret a light-hearted tweet as full confirmation of his intentions and league approval.
Yes, that is true - especially about his intentions. A lot will probably depend on how the next two years go. League approval is not an issue, however, since they merely rubber stamp it once a school has given approval for a 5th year. Another school could theoretically challenge it if there was no academic intent, but that is never an issue. Getting Bucknell approval is a much higher hurdle than league approval.
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