Chet Forte
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 02-10-16 07:11 PM - Post#201308
Can somebody please explain why the most graceful, fastest and most talented player in the Ivy League isn't having a monster season? I had thought that he would be willing us to victory. What I see is a highly polished, complete guard who,seems to be holding himself back. I don't see the emotion, or the fire, or the refusal to lose that I had hoped to,see. He now has eight more IL games. I hope he lets it rip.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Lo
02-10-16 08:42 PM - Post#201312
In response to Chet Forte
I don't think Lo's season has been bad at all. I think he's first team All-Ivy if the season ended today. The team has been winning, so I'm not sure what else he can do to will the team to victory. As I pointed out before the season, his totals are going to relate some to the supporting cast. Could he score more? Sure, but those additional points would largely be taken from Rosenberg, Mullins, and Petrasek. If the offense is working, I don't see the point of a redistribution where Lo scores 18 per game.
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PeteD
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02-11-16 12:21 AM - Post#201318
In response to SomeGuy
I've only seen a handful of games, but it appears teams are keying on him (big surprise), so instead of forcing the issue (taking contested 3's and/or driving to the hoop in major traffic), he's dishing off to his teammates when it makes sense to do so.
I agree with SomeGuy... he's having a nice All-Ivy caliber season.
I'd rather see him score 25 points this weekend and the Lions go 2-0, than see him put up 70 and have us go 0-2. Wins and losses are all that really matter at this point.
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randal7
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02-11-16 05:33 PM - Post#201366
In response to PeteD
I think he's having a nice year, but I also understand why the poster is perplexed. There are times when Lo drives to the hoop and scores in such a beautiful way that you think to yourself, "why doesn't he do that EVERY TIME". Well, he makes it look easier than it is, firstly, and also, when he is dazzling out there, that's highly energy consuming stuff.
The only observation that I've made, personally, that may account for Lo's perceived "shortcoming" in his potential is his running off non-ball screens and shooting. The old pick, curl and pop. Last year, Lo did alot of that. He was starting to remind me of a Rip Hamilton with the dexterity and agility he demonstrated to slink around screens that osetkowski and others would set, and quickly shoot. This year, he just looks more stiff. Whereas last year he could run around screens and find open spots INSIDE the 3-point line, this year he's not doing quite as much of that. There's only 1 thing I can pin that on -- Frank being gone.
Frankowski was a pretty shifty, nimble, dead-red shooter in his own right. He was also a real rah-rah guy. No idea how much he was in Lo's ear last year, but even just his leading by example probably influenced the way Lo played. I think last year it was against Penn when Frank when off for about 20 points in the first half and was hot as a pistol, using screens to curl and pop. Frank was a pro at that. Lo needs to do alittle more of it, especially to help collapse the defense a bit, which is flexed out most nights to prevent the 3-point shooting.
All in all though, this is nitpicking. Kid is seriously talented. And he's great on D as well.
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Chet Forte
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02-11-16 05:45 PM - Post#201368
In response to randal7
His performances against Harvard, when he made Saunders seem lost, and against Princeton, when he was just unstoppable, were ones for the ages. Some of the older Princeton guys were saying that they hadn't seen a one man act like that since Bill Bradley. And Saunders, of course, was supposed to be the Ivy's best shut down defender with a 3" size advantage. It was those lightening fast curls around screens which were just a work of art.
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Columbia 37P6
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02-11-16 06:30 PM - Post#201372
In response to Chet Forte
"Long, short and mid-range" are the three well-defined scoring areas in basketball, and I agree that for whatever reason it is the deterioration of Lo's mid-range game that has held him back this season on offense. Lo has become much too predictable on offense and needs to mix things up. However, not just Lo, but almost all the Columbia players (except Mullins and Rosenberg) have failed to do the necessary to expand their Game this season. Obvious examples include McComber who is an excellent outside shooter, but doesn't go to the basket at all, and Petrasek and Meisner, who drive to the basket occasionally, but from only one or two angles. Imagine how great the Columbia offense would be if Petrasek, Meisner and McComber would emulate Alex Rosenberg and start driving to the basket from all over the court.
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Chet Forte
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 02-11-16 06:39 PM - Post#201373
In response to Columbia 37P6
Jack Rohan would have this group running the table.
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randal7
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02-11-16 06:58 PM - Post#201374
In response to Chet Forte
Exactly right. It was the princeton game I'm thinking of. Yeah. When he got hot, he was pretty much shooting into a swimming pool
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Columbia Alum
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02-11-16 09:34 PM - Post#201375
In response to randal7
Lo's defense is going unsung here, he's incredible defending on the ball and he leads the league is steals/game by some margin and rebounds well for a guard, both of which are symptoms of his tough D. He's improved some aspects of his game, but overall we had hoped his experience with the German national team would have taken him to the next level. I think there's still time for him to bring that next level, this weekend would be nice! 
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SomeGuy
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02-11-16 09:59 PM - Post#201376
In response to Columbia Alum
Thank you for focusing on defense, which is half the game, and a place where Columbia needs Lo much more than they do on offense.
I think both the coach and the fans focus way too much on offense in all this analysis. I find it continually fascinating that the fan analysis of the team with the best offense in the league is that the team needs to do more on offense. You guys are already doing enough on offense. The defense has improved, but it still lags behind -- by a lot.
Sure, Lo scored a lot against Harvard and Princeton last year, but that wasn't winning basketball -- it was one guy playing hero ball, which usually loses. I'm guessing Saunders didn't feel silly after the game, or while he was at the NCAAs.
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internetter
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02-18-16 01:44 PM - Post#202050
In response to SomeGuy
Check out @CUSpecSports's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CUSpecSports/status/7 003417478...
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internetter
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 02-19-16 12:51 PM - Post#202092
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Check out @CULionsMBB's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CULionsMBB/status/700 715722603...
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Columbia Alum
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02-23-16 02:42 PM - Post#202494
In response to internetter
POW to Lo, his impact can't always be accurately measured since he's often doubled and does a good job shutting down the player he's defending. Deserving pow in my mind.
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internetter
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02-24-16 10:23 AM - Post#202540
In response to Columbia Alum
Lo accepted to Portsmouth Invitational Tournament, per Spec.
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internetter
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02-24-16 11:42 AM - Post#202541
In response to internetter
It starts April 13 iñ a Portsmouth, VA high school.
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internetter
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03-10-16 03:40 PM - Post#204116
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https://twitter.com/OvermyerTV/status/707 993421504...
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Chet Forte
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03-11-16 09:40 AM - Post#204180
In response to internetter
Maodo Lo was the first speaker at a fantastic event last night, the annual John Jay Awards banquet, which raised $1.1 million for the John Jay scholarship fund. Maodo was incredibly impressive on the podium addressing several hundred people.
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Columbia 37P6
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03-11-16 01:08 PM - Post#204201
In response to Chet Forte
Also, Maodo and Kyle both came across very well on CBS Sports last night. Thank you to internetter, for alerting us to the broadcast
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internetter
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03-11-16 01:41 PM - Post#204203
In response to Columbia 37P6
My true pleasure. While I couldn't watch it, I've received other positive reports of how it went.
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internetter
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03-25-16 01:09 PM - Post#205318
In response to internetter
Check out @CULionsMBB's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CULionsMBB/status/713 411260721...
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internetter
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04-12-16 11:13 AM - Post#206077
In response to internetter
Check out @CULionsMBB's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CULionsMBB/status/719 869520102...
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internetter
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04-13-16 11:31 AM - Post#206114
In response to internetter
Maodo Lo Selected to Participate in Portsmouth Invitational
http://www.gocolumbialions.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB...
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internetter
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04-14-16 08:31 PM - Post#206153
In response to internetter
Check out @CULionsMBB's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CULionsMBB/status/720 758845191...
Good start at Portsmouth
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internetter
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04-14-16 09:01 PM - Post#206156
In response to internetter
Check out @CULionsMBB's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CULionsMBB/status/720 777177604...
Final
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LionFan
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04-15-16 01:33 AM - Post#206159
In response to internetter
If anyone wants to watch the Portsmouth tourney, the games are carried on ESPN 3.
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LionFan
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04-15-16 07:52 AM - Post#206161
In response to LionFan
And for the true hoops junkie, here is the Portsmouth tourney website with schedule, box scores and rosters. Lo is on the Portsmouth Partnership team:
https://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/2016-schedu...
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internetter
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04-15-16 12:13 PM - Post#206172
In response to LionFan
Check out @CULionsMBB's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CULionsMBB/status/720 987608227...
Today's game
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RHunter3
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04-15-16 12:29 PM - Post#206175
In response to internetter
It's pretty cool that he's playing my in high school gym @ Churchland High Told Rodney that last night.
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internetter
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04-15-16 04:54 PM - Post#206193
In response to RHunter3
His team won by 1, 5th place game tomorrow
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hoopsfan
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05-05-16 11:15 AM - Post#206772
In response to internetter
Lo interview 5/3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ben6o4VuHts
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Chet Forte
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05-06-16 10:11 AM - Post#206778
In response to hoopsfan
Lo tabbed Penn as one of the three teams he expects to improve next year.
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hoopla
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05-06-16 12:19 PM - Post#206781
In response to Chet Forte
Who were the other 2 teams he expects to improve?
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internetter
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05-23-16 01:31 PM - Post#207222
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Check out @CULionsMBB's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CULionsMBB/status/734 790134047...
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Chet Forte
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05-23-16 02:14 PM - Post#207226
In response to internetter
Lo also said that he expects Harvard and Princeton to improve. He thinks we will also have a good team.
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internetter
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06-23-16 07:59 PM - Post#207920
In response to Chet Forte
Check out @jamesfraschilla's Tweet: https://twitter.com/jamesfraschilla/statu s/7460022...
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internetter
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06-27-16 01:05 PM - Post#207970
In response to internetter
Lo will play for Sixers in NBA summer league
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RHunter3
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07-04-16 06:12 PM - Post#208085
In response to internetter
@CULionsMBB: Maodo Lo makes his #NBASummerLeague debut with the @Sixers tonight at 7 p.m. Watch it live on @NBATV #TheChairman
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LionFan
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07-05-16 08:42 AM - Post#208088
In response to RHunter3
Alas, his name doesn't appear in the boxscore.
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section110
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07-05-16 09:20 AM - Post#208091
In response to LionFan
I did not see him on the roster in the Philly newspaper preview of the summer league.
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internetter
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Lo
07-05-16 09:25 AM - Post#208092
In response to section110
He was on the bench Monday, in uniform.
Edited by internetter on 07-05-16 09:26 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Murph
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07-05-16 11:05 AM - Post#208097
In response to internetter
I'm sure Lo will get a few minutes of playing time in Summer League games, but it isn't a good sign. Needless to say, an undrafted player needs to really impress in the Summer League to stick with a team, and Lo won't get that chance.
Hopefully, he can play for a high level European team for a year or two, and then sign with an NBA team. That's a better option than the D-League.
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section110
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Re: Lo
07-05-16 01:28 PM - Post#208103
In response to internetter
Okay. Hope he shows well, there are certainly spots for guards on the Sixers bench.
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LionFan
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07-05-16 01:35 PM - Post#208104
In response to section110
Does anyone remember how Jeremy Lin's breakout summer league season begin?
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SomeGuy
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07-05-16 02:48 PM - Post#208106
In response to LionFan
Not exactly. I think he played some every game, but I think he came off the bench until the breakout against Wall.
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Murph
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Lo
07-05-16 03:16 PM - Post#208107
In response to SomeGuy
Another former Ivy guard that played in the Summer League for the Pistons in 2007, and Lakers in 2010 was Ibrahim Jaaber.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Lo
07-05-16 05:20 PM - Post#208115
In response to Murph
And Zack Rosen in 2012. There have been a bunch of Ivy kids who played.
I know Kyle Casey played both summer league and NBA preseason (briefly before getting cut). Wesley Saunders and Keith Wright have played summer league (and managed to get traded for each other in NBA D-League).
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mrjames
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07-05-16 06:03 PM - Post#208116
In response to SomeGuy
Add TJ Bray to that list. Ian Hummer played too. On the way back list, add Brian Cusworth to the tally. We get lots of guys into summer league and some into the D-League. It's not a rare event by any stretch. It's just rare to seem them get NBA contracts. Pretty sure Ibby could have if he wanted to, but he was making much more in Europe, IIRC.
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westcoast
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07-05-16 08:04 PM - Post#208118
In response to internetter
Solid game for Lo today. 13 pts on 5-8 shooting (2-4 on 3PA) along with 3 rebounds, 1 steal, and +4 in 24 minutes. He also had 3 PF and 2 TOs.
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Murph
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07-08-16 05:55 AM - Post#208167
In response to westcoast
Another solid 8 point performance on 3-6 shooting, to go with 5 rbds. Lo registered a +8, in a winning effort.
The next hurdle is to get invited to the 76ers training camp in early October.
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Murph
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07-14-16 06:14 PM - Post#208362
In response to Murph
A glowing article on why the 76ers should sign Maodo Lo, from ESPN Fanside:
https://thesixersense.com/2016/07/13/summer-lea gue...
You don't suppose?
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SRP
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07-15-16 02:57 PM - Post#208416
In response to Murph
The thing that might make Lo viable where other smart, skilled Ivy guards would struggle is what the writer didn't say: Lo isn't too slow. There is a chance he could guard people well enough to stay on the floor.
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Murph
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07-16-16 08:30 AM - Post#208442
In response to SRP
Summer League final stats:
http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2016/pla yers/sl_ma...
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internetter
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07-16-16 11:25 PM - Post#208456
In response to Murph
Lo and Yale's Mason to play on German national team.
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internetter
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07-25-16 10:17 AM - Post#208946
In response to internetter
He signed with Brose Bamberg for 3 years.They're the defending German champions.
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internetter
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07-31-16 06:54 PM - Post#209156
In response to internetter
One of his possible rivals on GER team, Schroeder, has pulled out, giving Maodo a better chance to shine. Schroeder played ahead of him last summer.
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LionFan
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08-01-16 01:33 PM - Post#209170
In response to internetter
Not sure how much chance there will be for anyone to shine with the German team this year. They didn't qualify for the Olympics in EuroBasket last summer, and they didn't participate in the final play-in tournaments earlier this year, so they won't be in Rio. Is there much non-Olympic international competition this summer?
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internetter
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08-31-16 04:27 PM - Post#210065
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Check out @CULionsMBB's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CULionsMBB/status/771 080818441...
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internetter
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08-31-16 04:28 PM - Post#210066
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Check out @CULionsMBB's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CULionsMBB/status/771 080818441...
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internetter
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09-13-16 09:59 AM - Post#210374
In response to internetter
Lo had 16 pts, 9 assists, 8 rbs in Germany's 3 OT loss in European league.
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internetter
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10-16-16 08:10 PM - Post#211571
In response to internetter
Led his team in scoring, 19, 7 assists, as well in their win.
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rbg
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07-13-18 08:21 AM - Post#258785
In response to internetter
Lo has been signed by German League champs Bayern Munich to a two year contract. He spent the last two years with another German team, Brose Bamberg. In those two seasons, his team won one German League title and one German Cup.
http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/8vdpu8fcmlf9sv kk/...
Last year, he averaged 8.7 points and 2.1 assists in domestic league games. In EuroLeague games, he had 6.9 points and 1.8 assists.
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internetter
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07-13-18 03:03 PM - Post#258864
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http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/8vdpu8fcmlf9sv kk/...
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