SomeGuy
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03-18-16 10:04 PM - Post#204954
In response to Old Bear
Well, it's even more enigmatic than that. Victor can shoot 3s. He just can't shoot free throws. He managed to hit 45% from 3 this year. An even stranger stat -- as a soph, he hit a higher percentage of 3s (.281) than free throws (.280).
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SRP
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03-19-16 02:03 PM - Post#204993
In response to SomeGuy
Wasn't Bruce Bowen of the Spurs like that?
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bradley
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03-19-16 05:45 PM - Post#205029
In response to SRP
Coach K was so complimentary regarding Yale's performance post-game. Charles Barkley stated prior to the Baylor game that Yale would get killed and he completely changed his tune after today's game. Down by 27 pts to a very close and competitive game over the last 10 minutes. The Ivy League got a lot of good press this week that should help the League in the future as to seeding of teams.
Yale did a great job representing the Ivy League. They had a legitimate chance to get to the sweet 16. Unfortunately, Duke was unconscious in the first half and Yale, without Montague, could not hit 3 pointers.
Coach Jones really helped putting Yale on the map and I would not be the least bit surprised that their tournament play will help them on the recruiting front. Although they will lose a lot next year, it would not be surprised if they are playing in the inaugural Ivy League tournament as Mason will probably get even better. Coach K raved about him.
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Mike Porter
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03-19-16 06:22 PM - Post#205034
In response to bradley
Yep - well done by Yale and even though Penn is not good, it is great to see the quality of the league over the last 6 years.
I expect Mason to be a POY candidate as a junior and don't forget they have a 4* 6'9" frosh coming in who chose Yale over Clemson and South Carolina. If he can play right away Yale should be good.
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Old Bear
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03-19-16 08:36 PM - Post#205041
In response to Mike Porter
I have not been a James Jones in the past, but I am now. He Reppen' the league with class.
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Bruno
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03-20-16 10:25 AM - Post#205063
In response to Old Bear
I thought this was a truly credible performance. I was proud to be an in the Ivy hoops hound this week.
Yale is really good, a really good college basketball team. Not just a great Ivy team. The combination of Sherrod and Mason and Sears was outstanding and this team's poise, effort and resolve was awesome.
I did not like Jones' fouling to get into the bonus in the final minutes - thought they needed to go for steals and not let them put points on the board. But in the end I think the right team won - Duke's a little better than Yale. (and how many years could you say that sentence with 'a little better'?)
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SomeGuy
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03-20-16 01:46 PM - Post#205069
In response to Bruno
They may have fouled one too many, but down like they were, if you don't foul them when they did, you won't have the option later if you don't get the steal.
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SRP
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03-20-16 02:27 PM - Post#205071
In response to SomeGuy
The way Yale never gave up while absolutely pummeling Duke on the boards, in a game where Mason was not a scorer, against a team that took them seriously and had familiarity, deprived the media of all their facile story lines. They had to admit that Yale was just a good, tough basketball team, although I don't think they gave Sears, Sherrod, and Victor much individual love during the game. The parallel with Wichita State's similar rebounding and defense fueled near-comeback in the prior game was striking. Lots of guts by all four teams was shown in those two games.
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SomeGuy
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03-20-16 06:05 PM - Post#205082
In response to SRP
Absolutely.
Though it struck me that some in the media didn't have it quite right in the Baylor game, when they were asking Baylor players about getting outrebounded after the game. Yale didn't actually outrebound Baylor in percentage terms -- they just got more total rebounds because Baylor missed more shots.
Yale outrebounded Duke though. And it was great to see them look like the same team playing against the high majors. You just can't take all three of those guys away. Duke made it hard for Sears and Mason, but that meant they had no answer for Sherrod.
Those were two fun games to watch.
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Old Bear
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03-21-16 03:11 PM - Post#205142
In response to SomeGuy
Does anyone think Montague might have made a difference?
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SRP
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03-22-16 10:01 PM - Post#205211
In response to Old Bear
Hard to say. He couldn't have hurt on the offensive end. I think some of the guys playing instead of him may be marginally better defenders.
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SomeGuy
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Go Bulldogs 03-22-16 11:13 PM - Post#205221
In response to SRP
I think he'd make a difference. Duke's pressure on Mason and Sears was leaving Ghani and Phills open for 3s. If that is Montague, there's a better chance they go in, and a better chance Duke approaches things differently. Just as important, Montague takes some ball-handling pressure off Mason (though Dallier actually does a decent job bringing the ball up the court). Just having another guy helps too.i
Despite the fairly close result without Montague, I want to emphasize that making a difference doesn't mean beating Duke.
Edited by SomeGuy on 03-22-16 11:14 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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