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Username Post: Hufnagel        (Topic#18882)
palestra38 
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Reg: 11-21-04
04-21-16 11:08 AM - Post#206420    
    In response to TheLine

Different issue. I'm just addressing the discharge for cause.

 
digamma 
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Loc: Minneapolis
Reg: 11-27-11
04-21-16 04:32 PM - Post#206436    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
You add an editorial which is nothing close to what I said. I never said they shouldn't "care." But in order to fire him FOR CAUSE for a violation of the sexual harassment policy of the University, you have to follow that policy, which states that it covers only those affiliated with the University. They have the right to fire him and probably pay his remaining term for other reasons (unless this falls within the general conduct clause, which I doubt), but I am just looking at the legality of what they did. And as to that, I think he had a pretty good defense because she was not affiliated with the University.

Yes, they should care. But if you want to fire someone for violation of a policy, the terms of that policy are controlling.



As I read the Policy (linked), the definition of University community is likely broad enough to cover the reporter. (Visitors to the campus are included.) Further complainants under the policy can be any person.

The sort of weird thing is that I think you're correct that I'm not sure she would have any recourse under the policy, but I don't think there's anything that prevents her from reporting his conduct under it or for him being punished or terminated.


 
SRP 
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Reg: 02-04-06
04-21-16 06:27 PM - Post#206448    
    In response to digamma

Lock up your daughters, Yanni's coming for a recruiting visit! Seriously, won't this tend to hurt his effectiveness somewhat?

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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Loc: New Jersey
Reg: 01-21-14
Hufnagel
04-21-16 07:15 PM - Post#206455    
    In response to SRP

Not at Trump University!

Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 04-21-16 07:16 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
SomeGuy 
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Reg: 11-22-04
04-21-16 10:30 PM - Post#206466    
    In response to SRP

Well, I wouldn't send my sons to play for him. There may not be many folks who will feel that way, but if there are any, it hurts his effectiveness.

Also, Dealing with the media obviously was part of the Cal job, and I can't imagine that he'll be as effective in that part of the job going forward (if he can doing t at all), as he's obviously lost a lot of credibility there.

 
SomeGuy 
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Re: Hufnagel
04-21-16 10:38 PM - Post#206467    
    In response to palestra38

It is entirely possible that you are correct and Cal overstepped its policy. Why assume that, though? You have another university taking action against a guy for violating their harassment policy. Cal presumably has more facts on this than you, or me, or Nevada. Why is the assumption that they got it wrong?

Again, the disturbing thing to me is that Nevada doesn't even seem to have checked it out. Would you hire anyone who literally just got fired for violating his prior employer's harassment policy? Thinking about it as a lawyer, would you counsel a client to hire such a person?

 
Tiger69 
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Posts: 2004

Reg: 11-23-04
Re: Hufnagel
04-22-16 08:35 AM - Post#206480    
    In response to SomeGuy

Why do we care about this creep, anyway? He's gone from the Ivies. Good riddance. This is a good example of what can happen when the desire to have something (here, big time bball prospects) clouds good judgement.

 
sparman 
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sparman
Reg: 12-08-04
Re: Hufnagel
04-22-16 09:02 AM - Post#206481    
    In response to SomeGuy

  • SomeGuy Said:
Thinking about it as a lawyer, would you counsel a client to hire such a person?


While we agree on the answer, the reality is that the question is what you would advise the client to do when he/she comes to you and says they have already hired this person, what should they do now?


 
PennFan10 
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Reg: 02-15-15
04-22-16 09:47 AM - Post#206483    
    In response to sparman

The reality is any affect on Yanni will be short lived. people will forget about it in short order. I would guess that virtually no one on here can cite the reasons any assistant coach in the Ivy's left another position to come to their current job.

Unfortunately, if people can forget about what Kobe did in Colorado and cheer him the way they did in the finale, they will forget Yann Hufnagel and the reasons he "almost got fired from Cal" fairly quickly.

 
PennFan10 
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Reg: 02-15-15
03-23-17 05:50 PM - Post#228038    
    In response to Silver Maple

Saw a report on hoopdirt that Yann Hufnagel is "no longer a coach at Nevada"

http://www.rgj.com/story/sports/college/ nevada/201...

That didn't take long. Also, about the time this happened I saw a report that Eric Mussleman, HC at Nevada, was a candidate for the Cal job....and then yesterday he withdrew his name from consideration. Interesting developments.

 
SRP 
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03-23-17 06:06 PM - Post#228040    
    In response to PennFan10

Another candidate, I can't remember who, also bailed on the Cal job.

 
Silver Maple 
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Reg: 11-23-04
03-23-17 08:34 PM - Post#228050    
    In response to SRP

That's always struck me as a job that has failure baked into it.

 
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