internetter
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03-29-16 09:51 PM - Post#205492
In response to Chet Forte
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/71 498746711...
Don't know anything more...
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Mike Porter
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03-29-16 10:00 PM - Post#205495
In response to internetter
Yeah... A response like that indicates he is gone (otherwise it would be easy to deny).
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Murph
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03-30-16 06:26 AM - Post#205502
In response to Mike Porter
Man, Smith couldn't wait to get out of here. He couldn't leave fast enough.
I agree Derrick Phelps would be an interesting choice. He's a Queens native and a Christ the King alumnus, so might actually value the position, and not just see it as a stepping stone to some other job.
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Chet Forte
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03-30-16 07:16 AM - Post#205504
In response to Murph
Confirmed. Kyle told people last night.
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internetter
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03-30-16 08:14 AM - Post#205505
In response to Chet Forte
Lo in NY Post story:
He changed the culture.
And he started Mullins who was 2nd team all Ivy after returning from the concussion having missed more than a year, stuck with Cohen.
Alas, box score readers couldn't handle all of that.
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RHunter3
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03-30-16 08:16 AM - Post#205506
In response to Murph
The thing that irks me is we had this conversation during the recruiting process. It's true that a kid commits to a university, but it's the coach and his staff that they really commit to. My son's HS coach and I asked about his plans to stay at CU. It's one reason we decided on CU.
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Chet Forte
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03-30-16 09:21 AM - Post#205508
In response to RHunter3
Stay the course.
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Columbia 37P6
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03-30-16 09:22 AM - Post#205509
In response to RHunter3
Luke and Jeff were both terrific in the Championship Game. Lucas will be an outstanding player. Rodney will be a major part of next year's team. CJ, Nate, KJ and Mike Smith will be part of a high quality backcourt. Patrick Tape and Killingsworth are solid prospects. Based on his record of coaching selections thus far, our AD, Peter Pilling certainly will hire a great replacement, With the victory last night before a packed crowd, the Lions probably set the table for an early December tournament of the top NYC teams including, of course, Columbia. Significant facilities improvements are surely ahead, etc., etc. The future for Columbia University Basketball looks very bright to me!
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RHunter3
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03-30-16 09:24 AM - Post#205510
In response to Chet Forte
Rodney's absolutely LOVES CU. MY thing is had he told us this, it would have been on the table in the decision process. We were going to visit Penn, Boston U,and Yale after CU.
There is a good chance that we would have been here anyway. We are in it for the long haul.
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RHunter3
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03-30-16 09:26 AM - Post#205511
In response to Columbia 37P6
The is definitely bright. I would like to see Phelps get a shot, because you want to keep going in the same direction. You don't want to bring in someone that has a different scheme in mind and it's not to the strength of the players that are there.
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internetter
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03-30-16 10:07 AM - Post#205512
In response to Columbia 37P6
Adlesh seems to have good court sense, shoots well. I think he was hurt part of this year.
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Chet Forte
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03-30-16 10:10 AM - Post#205513
In response to internetter
PS, how come Castlin and Hickman didn't play in the last two games?
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RHunter3
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03-30-16 10:19 AM - Post#205514
In response to Chet Forte
Both are injured
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cc66
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03-30-16 11:20 AM - Post#205517
In response to RHunter3
I'm curious--what's the salary difference between Columbia and SF?
In the meantime, since Smith is leaving, I hope they 1) hire a coach ASAP; and 2) address the uncertainties that will surely arise in the minds of the new recruits.
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hoopsfan
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03-30-16 11:32 AM - Post#205518
In response to Chet Forte
As others have noted, USF is in a tough spot in a tough conference. Kyle is taking on a big lift but then he did the same at Columbia so perhaps it is unwise to doubt him. I am certain personal considerations weighed heavily in this decision.
USF of course many decades ago was the very best. Then they had a recruiting scandal and criminal allegations against Quinton Dailey and dropped the program entirely after efforts to clean it up failed. They re-instated it and had some success in the late 70's with Bill Cartwright.
Two coaches ago, Jessie Evans, left mid-contract for supposedly losing control of the program and I believe he ended up winning a lot of money after a protracted law suit. Rex Walters coached for the last 8 years and had some but not consistent success, and had a lot of player turnover, although I think that was more in his early years.
So that is the basketball situation that Kyle is walking into. I'll be curious as to what happens. I am rooting for him.
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Chet Forte
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03-30-16 11:35 AM - Post#205519
In response to cc66
There is an unspoken rule in the Ivies, possibly breached by Harvard with Amaker through a booster group, that a head coach will not get paid more than a full professor. My guess is that Kyle, who is still relatively young, was making around 250K and that he probably would have doubled that at USF. This is part of the same Ivy philosophy that precludes the 8 schools from granting athletic scholarships. Great Ivy coaches like Bagnoli, Murphy and Joe Jones do not stay around for the money but for the many other benefits of coaching at one of these great schools. While I am grateful to Kyle for elevating our program, I am disappointed that he chose to walk and hope that his successor does not view this job as a stepping stone. This is very similar to the Craig Robinson and Sydney Johnson moves from Brown and Princeton.
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RHunter3
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03-30-16 11:40 AM - Post#205520
In response to Chet Forte
I'm hearing the NJIT coach is high on the list as well as the current associate head coach.
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RHunter3
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03-30-16 11:43 AM - Post#205521
In response to Chet Forte
The good this is there are still alot of great pieces left on the team. We are loosing a great bunch of seniors, but the young guys can play. I'm hearing that they will be better defensively for starters. We will also be underestimated going into the season. I think it's going to be more of a reloading year not so much as rebuilding.
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Chet Forte
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03-30-16 11:54 AM - Post#205523
In response to RHunter3
Is Carlin Hartman a candidate?
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RHunter3
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03-30-16 12:14 PM - Post#205524
In response to Chet Forte
No sure, but he would be a great choice
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