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Username Post: Kyle Smith to San Francisco        (Topic#18929)
hoopsfan 
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03-30-16 12:31 PM - Post#205525    
    In response to RHunter3

Carlin would be a great choice but (at least until our opening) if he were able to go somewhere this year it would have been James Madison or Tulane where he has deep connections. His problem is that Rice has not won enough yet for him to be marketable in this cycle of openings.

 
Dr. V 
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03-30-16 01:12 PM - Post#205526    
    In response to hoopsfan

Kyle is walking into a challenging situation, but my guess is that his decision is dictated as much by family considerations as anything else. He and his wife have 3 very young sons. Both her family and his father are on the West Coast, so I presume that the attraction of being closer to family is significant.

 
Dr. V 
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03-30-16 01:18 PM - Post#205529    
    In response to Dr. V

Regarding next year, the big question mark is where will we get the three point shooting that Maodo, Grant and Rosie provided?

 
RHunter3 
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03-30-16 01:18 PM - Post#205530    
    In response to Dr. V

I just read that there is mutual interest between Bruce Weber and CU. Interesting prospect.

 
pennhoops 
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Reg: 11-21-04
03-30-16 01:21 PM - Post#205531    
    In response to RHunter3

From a disinterested party, I'd say if Jim Engels shows the slightest interest I'd take him in a heartbeat.

 
skiba34 
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03-30-16 01:28 PM - Post#205532    
    In response to RHunter3

  • RHunter3 Said:
I'm hearing the NJIT coach is high on the list as well as the current associate head coach.



Coach Jim Engles of NJIT is an excellent coach based on my own personally and professional experiences of knowing him. Engles is definitely knowledgeable about all the ins and outs associated in dealing with IVY league schools. He is also, in my opinion, a very player friendly coach and would do well with Columbia's current pool of talent. Without knowing all the other candidates as HC, I couldn't say if Engles should be top choice, but I will definitely endorse Coach Engles as a good one.


 
palestra38 
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03-30-16 01:38 PM - Post#205533    
    In response to skiba34

He took a program that was perhaps the worst situation in the country, with no league, virtually winless record and horrible facilites in a depressing location and made it a consistent winner. Frankly, I think he could make a bigger jump than Columbia, but if CU can get him, that would be an excellent choice.

 
mrjames 
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03-30-16 01:39 PM - Post#205534    
    In response to skiba34

I cannot wait until we get to see how serious Columbia is about putting chips on the table here. Huge data point that will be exciting to see.

 
Chet Forte 
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03-30-16 01:45 PM - Post#205535    
    In response to mrjames

I suspect that there will be a lot of interest in this job. The turnout last night was fantastic. This team has some excellent talent and a few really good looking recruits. The new AD is a closer.


 
internetter 
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03-30-16 02:47 PM - Post#205540    
    In response to RHunter3

Check out @IvyHoopsOnline's Tweet: https://twitter.com/IvyHoopsOnline/status /71523823...
west coast fan


 
Chet Forte 
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03-30-16 03:44 PM - Post#205542    
    In response to internetter

I actually found this article to have the unintended result of being a real downer. The conclusion left me pretty cold.


 
Columbia 37P6 
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03-30-16 04:04 PM - Post#205545    
    In response to Chet Forte

Our new head basketball coach must be at least two things: (1) A great recruiter; and (2) A great game coach. I do agree with Chet that there will be many persons interested in the Columbia position. Derrick Phelps, Carlin Hartman and Jim Engles are three of the obvious early possibilities but there are numerous outstanding college assistant coaches with connections to New York City who would jump at the chance to return to New York. Also, keep in mind, that our Head Football Coach, Al Bagnoli and his staff have already successfully created and implemented a recruiting platform that is second to none in the Ivy League and can be used by both of our Men and Women's Basketball Coaches to attract the best and brightest to Morningside Heights.

 
mrjames 
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03-30-16 04:17 PM - Post#205546    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

I wouldn't weight those two equally. This is a Jims and Joes league, folks. You can win with great players and mediocre players, but you can no longer win in this league with mediocre players and great coaching.

 
RHunter3 
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03-30-16 04:18 PM - Post#205547    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

Don't forget that Bruce Weber has been linked to the opening as well.

 
bradley 
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03-30-16 05:07 PM - Post#205548    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:
I cannot wait until we get to see how serious Columbia is about putting chips on the table here. Huge data point that will be exciting to see.




Losing a good coach like Coach Smith to SF says something about the Ivy League. I realize that personal and geographical considerations come into play but it appears that the Ivy League is still a stepping stone for good young coaches. I would not be the least bit surprised if Coach Henderson leaves Princeton next year after taking a run with his group of seniors. Next year, he may be in his best marketing position as Coach Smith was this year with his group of seniors.

Until the Ivy League colleges start to pay head coaches and assistants like they want to be a better conference than 15 out of 32, it will remain a one NCAA tournament bid league with a rare exception. Unlike football, it is a sport that the Ivy League could make a much stronger commitment without costing an enormous amount of money. I doubt that it will happen.

 
randal7 
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Reg: 12-31-13
03-30-16 05:29 PM - Post#205549    
    In response to bradley

I'm going to let you all in on a little secret... the players don't like Smith. Him going may actually help unify this team and, if the right guy is hired, this team can potentially reach new heights.

Smith is a great evaluator of talent and a pretty good recruiter. Not a good game day coach. And we've all seen that first hand.

 
Dr. V 
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-21-04
03-30-16 05:43 PM - Post#205550    
    In response to randal7

And you know what you allege in your first paragraph on the basis of what?

 
randal7 
Freshman
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Age: 36
Reg: 12-31-13
03-30-16 06:05 PM - Post#205551    
    In response to Dr. V

Not sure how you'd like me to answer this question. Because I know? Theres alot I'm not divulging, this is high-level stuff.

How about this -- anybody care to contradict me? Better yet, perhaps someone else who also is well aware of this truth can just say, "YEP. That's correct".



 
RHunter3 
Junior
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RHunter3
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03-30-16 07:01 PM - Post#205553    
    In response to randal7

I've got 1st hand knowledge and I haven't heard this.

 
umbrellaman 
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umbrellaman
Reg: 11-21-04
03-30-16 07:03 PM - Post#205554    
    In response to randal7

Meh - if the coach is good, they don't have to love him. If the coach is doing a good job, they don't love him or her, until years later.

 
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