mrjames
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08-25-16 04:04 PM - Post#209890
Both are visiting Harvard next month. Wendell will be visiting officially. Mo Bamba will be on an unofficial. Both are consensus Top 5 players in the 2017 class and potentially lottery picks in the 2018 NBA Draft.
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mrjames
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Re: Wendell Carter and Mo Bamba 08-26-16 09:33 AM - Post#209902
In response to mrjames
Some good reads on Wendell Carter and Harvard:
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/st ory/...
https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/new s/wendell...
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Local Observer
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Re: Wendell Carter and Mo Bamba 08-26-16 02:04 PM - Post#209924
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Not a chance, i'm afraid. I think the Carter application is simply tactical on his part, and the other guy hasn't even been offered. Carter's buddy hasn't been offered by Harvard although he has been by Duke, and they still pledge they're going to the same team. After all the theatrics, I'd guess Duke has them all locked up. Also, do we even want to get involved with "1 and done" guys?
Edited by Local Observer on 08-26-16 02:12 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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mrjames
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08-26-16 02:14 PM - Post#209926
In response to Local Observer
I mean, there's a TON going on here that I'm not going to get into.
The real story is far more interesting than just "not a chance." The only thing I'll say for sure is that "not a chance" is definitely understating the true odds.
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Local Observer
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08-26-16 02:37 PM - Post#209929
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Whatever you say~
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final479
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08-26-16 11:15 PM - Post#209962
In response to Local Observer
A longtime Penn fan, but for what's worth I think Messrs. Carter and Bamba attending Harvard would be incredibly exciting. It would represent a turning point for not only Harvard, but for the entire league, both its profile, competitiveness and as a draw to recruits. I'm rooting for this.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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08-27-16 01:55 PM - Post#209969
In response to final479
It's been suggested that Amaker is only looking for a 3 or 4 member 2017 recruiting class to follow the monster 7 member Class of 2016. Although Carter or Bamba would be amazing, what if they each go elsewhere? Beyond Haskett, I don't see mention of other prospects. Anyone know more?
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Tiger69
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Wendell Carter and Mo Bamba 08-28-16 03:02 AM - Post#209988
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Seriously...Harvard in the one-and-done market?
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nychoops
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08-29-16 10:17 AM - Post#210000
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Please let me start by saying Mrjames has so much more knowledge about both Harvard and this league than I ever have or ever will...he has most likely forgotten more by his breakfast this morning than I've ever known.....and the details with these kids I'm sure he has knowledge of that i don't....but I do have enough 100% information directly in this case to know these kids will not be at Harvard next year,
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H78
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08-30-16 04:20 AM - Post#210011
In response to final479
A longtime Penn fan, but for what's worth I think Messrs. Carter and Bamba attending Harvard would be incredibly exciting. It would represent a turning point for not only Harvard, but for the entire league, both its profile, competitiveness and as a draw to recruits. I'm rooting for this.
Absolutely. You are onto something very special that I also hope is going on here. The next 5 years will perhaps see more and more really smart achievers, who also play great basketball, come to the Ivies.
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Tiger69
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08-30-16 08:49 AM - Post#210013
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If they are that good and that bright, they'll do their one-and-done at Kentucky, get drafted, play a few years, and THEN go Ivy where they can focus while playing club ball.
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mrjames
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08-30-16 10:38 AM - Post#210015
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That's ridiculous. If you go to Harvard, you can pursue a pro career and come back and complete your degree over time. Why wouldn't you lock the ability to get a Harvard degree in while you can?
Ivies are about affecting the thought of the future leaders of our country and the world. Like it or not, future leaders includes athletes, just as it includes other entertainers. Gone are the days where the Ivies existed to afford patricians a private club to discuss philosophy and the arts. Athletes (and specifically basketball players) are growing increasingly interested in their brand, in business and being educated influencers. This won't be the last time a really smart, really talented player looks hard at the value of an Ivy degree to his or her future.
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Silver Maple
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08-30-16 11:40 AM - Post#210017
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I'm just waiting to see how long it takes before somebody gets called a racist here.
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final479
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08-30-16 01:56 PM - Post#210020
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Beautifully said
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H78
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08-30-16 06:31 PM - Post#210023
In response to final479
Beautifully said
Second that!
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Tiger69
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08-30-16 08:18 PM - Post#210026
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So, why not pursue your Harvard Degree without the distractions of the draft? Are you suggesting that a bright NBA vet who could be admitted at 18 could not get in at 24 with a wealth of real world experience and maturity?
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mrjames
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08-30-16 09:57 PM - Post#210027
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I think you're being deliberately obtuse.
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Silver Maple
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08-30-16 10:12 PM - Post#210028
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Disagree. It's a fair question. If a kid is on a track to being a lottery pick, why not go someplace like Kentucky? There he could pretty much focus full time on preparing for a career in pro basketball, while playing at the highest level of the college game and getting the best possible instruction. When his pro career is winding down, he can then turn his attention to getting a top-quality college education.
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PennFan10
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08-30-16 10:32 PM - Post#210029
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I think the point is that basketball gets you into Harvard and access to an Ivy degree. Once you are in you can finish whenever. Go the Kentucky/NBA route and your application to Harvard is one of 39,000 with a 3% chance of admittance.
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mrjames
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08-30-16 10:41 PM - Post#210030
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Because he's made it clear that academics are a high priority which is why people believe he's down to Harvard and Duke and many have reported that UK has withdrawn from its pursuit. Because he likes doing things a different way. Because he wouldn't get into Harvard when he's in his 20s but can now.
It's a question rooted in a particular stereotype of what a highly talented prospect wants - one that unfair and not applicable in this case. And that's obvious from any of the profiles you read about Wendell.
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