Silver Maple
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08-30-16 11:11 PM - Post#210031
In response to mrjames
Go the Kentucky/NBA route and your application to Harvard is one of 39,000 with a 3% chance of admittance.
Sorry-- I don't buy that. A famous, retired NBA player would not be just another applicant.
Because he wouldn't get into Harvard when he's in his 20s but can now.
See above-- I'm skeptical of this claim, and I seriously doubt it's based on anything factual. And, to be clear, I'm making the assumption that Harvard wouldn't be the only acceptable college choice at this stage in his life.
Because he likes doing things a different way.
That makes sense. I can totally see this one.
It's a question rooted in a particular stereotype of what a highly talented prospect wants.
Here we go again.
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Tiger69
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08-30-16 11:46 PM - Post#210032
In response to Silver Maple
Thank you.
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Tiger69
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08-30-16 11:52 PM - Post#210033
In response to PennFan10
If LeBron James decided to apply to Princeton, or Harvard for that matter, after he retires, I expect that he would be accepted with open arms.
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PennFan10
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08-31-16 09:32 AM - Post#210044
In response to Tiger69
If LeBron James decided to apply to Princeton, or Harvard for that matter, after he retires, I expect that he would be accepted with open arms.
I totally agree Lebron would be a great Harvard addition, though I am not sure he would play over Zena.
The question isn't about 1 superstar who is the 2G.O.A.T
What about Karl Anthony-Towns, Jahlil Okafor, Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Nerlens Noel, Anthony Davis, Michael-Kidd Gilchrist. Or Kyrie Irving, Enes Kanter, John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, Blake Griffin, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love or even Carmelo Anthony.
Would all these players be accepted with "open arms" to Harvard today or would any of them have to go through the same application process as anyone else? These were all one and done players who were highly recruited to big name schools as consensus top 50 players out of high school.
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pennhoops
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08-31-16 11:08 AM - Post#210049
In response to PennFan10
If LeBron James decided to apply to Princeton, or Harvard for that matter, after he retires, I expect that he would be accepted with open arms.
I totally agree Lebron would be a great Harvard addition, though I am not sure he would play over Zena.
The question isn't about 1 superstar who is the 2G.O.A.T
What about Karl Anthony-Towns, Jahlil Okafor, Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Nerlens Noel, Anthony Davis, Michael-Kidd Gilchrist. Or Kyrie Irving, Enes Kanter, John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, Blake Griffin, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love or even Carmelo Anthony.
Would all these players be accepted with "open arms" to Harvard today or would any of them have to go through the same application process as anyone else? These were all one and done players who were highly recruited to big name schools as consensus top 50 players out of high school.
Sorry to get way off-topic but just a little fact-checking here: Russell Westbrook was a three star recruit who wound up at UCLA as an afterthought and hardly touched the ball as a frosh.
Now back to your regularly scheduled Questionable Harvard Admissions Practices programming.
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PennFan10
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Wendell Carter and Mo Bamba 08-31-16 12:33 PM - Post#210054
In response to pennhoops
Right, sorry. And he left after his 2nd year at UCLA as the #4 pick overall. So he was 2 and done. (he was offered a scholarship by Ben Howland after Jordan Farmar declared for the draft in March)
Edited by PennFan10 on 08-31-16 12:41 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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09-06-16 06:48 PM - Post#210237
In response to mrjames
DeAndre Ayton just committed to Arizona. Have to assume that doesn't help the Crimson's chance to land Carter or Bamba. Had Ayton selected Kentucky, and either Bamba/Carter ended up at Duke, I assume the remaining player might have had to consider his options, including Harvard.
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digamma
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09-08-16 03:19 PM - Post#210283
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
I'm not sure if this is behind a subscription pay wall or not, but interesting comments from Rivals' national guy Harvard's chances with Carter and Bamba. In sum, he calls them "somewhat legitimate."
https://basketballrecruit ing.rivals.com/news/bossi...
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Tiger69
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09-09-16 12:49 AM - Post#210300
In response to digamma
Could this be TA's way of proving to Duke that he can recruit with the big guys when Coach K calls it quits. Just sayin'
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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09-09-16 08:44 AM - Post#210301
In response to Tiger69
Hope so! Also hope he's successful in proving that point.
Amaker has reportedly received numerous offers to leave Harvard over the past few years. If the only position he would take is head coach of Duke I'd be relieved.
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Tiger69
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09-09-16 11:24 AM - Post#210304
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Until then, perhaps Harvard can come up with a "Harvard Lite" one year program to teach prospects the skills they will need to keep from going from riches to rags a few years after receiving hefty bonuses and seven figure salaries.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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09-09-16 11:32 AM - Post#210305
In response to Tiger69
Don't all Harvard grads get hefty bonuses immediately upon graduation?
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iabhoops88
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09-20-16 06:37 PM - Post#210629
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Wendell Carter just tweeted his final four schools: Georgia, Georgia Tech, Duke, and Harvard!
Of note, Duke is the only one on Gary Trent Jr.'s final five schools. Trent and Carter have repeatedly said they will attend the same school. Perhaps that has changed.
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Local Observer
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Wendell Carter and Mo Bamba 09-21-16 04:20 PM - Post#210674
In response to iabhoops88
I still think this whole "Harvard" thing is a sham, and that the kid has always been headed for Duke. Keeping Harvard on the list makes for a good story and makes some kind of political point for him and his recruiting gurus. Maybe it's: "I may be a one and done, but I'm not dumb. I coulda gone to Harvard."
The experts aren't fooled, as all 31 on the 247 roster see him headed to Duke.
Edited by Local Observer on 09-21-16 04:31 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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digamma
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09-22-16 08:28 AM - Post#210699
In response to Local Observer
Maybe it is a sham but I think the good it does for Harvard basketball greatly outweighs the personal pride he gets for being able to say I coulda gone to Harvard.
BTW, the real window dressing here is the inclusion of the hometown schools in the final four. Pretty sure both Fox and Pastner begged to be in the final four to look relevant in state.
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Tiger69
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09-22-16 11:19 AM - Post#210709
In response to digamma
He can have his cake and eat it too. He can spend a year at a fine school like Dook honing his bball skills, put aside a chunk of his NBA paychecks for a half dozen years, transfer to Harvard that is so eager to have him now (he will be able to pay full tuition by then!) and he'll have his H degree and several million $ before he's 30!
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Local Observer
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09-22-16 11:39 AM - Post#210712
In response to Tiger69
To tiger 69: has that kind of thing ever happened? I doubt that it has or that it ever will. Harvard and the Georgias are all just "political" window dressing, IMHO.
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mrjames
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09-22-16 11:56 AM - Post#210716
In response to Local Observer
I disagree with a lot of what is being said here. I do think he will end up at Duke. Everything else could broadly be categorized into three buckets: off base, ignorant or arrogant/condescending.
Since this borders too closely on territory that falls under my #dayjob, I'll merely say that there has been a tremendous change in the way in which athletes view themselves which prioritizes brand, business and education. To pretend like a person who excels at a sport can't also pursue other interests at a very high level is, at a minimum, an incredibly outmoded way of thinking.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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09-22-16 12:20 PM - Post#210719
In response to Local Observer
I'm not aware of Harvard taking many "older" students ab initio. My son is there now. There is a 22 year old orphan in the class of 2018 from Rwanda whose story was so unique that it ended up in the NY Times, but otherwise it doesn't seem to be a path to an undergraduate acceptance. I would think that this would likely be especially true if the candidate matriculated elsewhere, went on to a career, and wanted to go back to school. Maybe Harvard's Extension School would be available, but not the traditional undergraduate program.
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Silver Maple
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09-22-16 12:22 PM - Post#210720
In response to mrjames
Everything else could broadly be categorized into three buckets: off base, ignorant or arrogant/condescending.
I see we're back to that again.
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