MrPhillie
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04-10-17 04:38 PM - Post#228667
In response to HuskyColonial
Happy for Mike that he's getting important minutes and that he's making something positive happen while out there.
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Bison137
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04-11-17 09:13 PM - Post#228690
In response to MrPhillie
Mike 2-2 in the first half tonight, helping the Hawks to a big lead with a +17 during his court time.
ESPN is featuring a video clip of Mike dunking over Kaminsky. Should have been a 3-point play.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=1913757 7
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MrPhillie
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04-11-17 09:40 PM - Post#228692
In response to Bison137
Oh definitely was fouled.
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HuskyColonial
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04-11-17 10:10 PM - Post#228693
In response to MrPhillie
Mike is blowing up. Huge play in important minutes.
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Bison137
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04-11-17 10:27 PM - Post#228694
In response to HuskyColonial
Ended up with 8 points in 18 minutes tonight in an easy win. Shot 4-4, with 1 rebound and 3 assists. Also had a team-leading +26.
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jkrun80
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04-16-17 05:39 PM - Post#228755
In response to Bison137
Mike had 8 pts in Game 1 vs. Washington. Bit of an off day 2-5 FG, but 4-4 FTs. Had an untimely turnover late with the Hawks down 7.
CJ McCollum has 34 pts through 3Q vs. the Warriors.
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MyOhMighty
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04-29-17 10:03 AM - Post#228983
In response to jkrun80
Nice write-up from a Nets blog
https://nothinbutnets.com/2017/04/27/mike-musca la-...
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Bison137
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05-08-17 04:37 PM - Post#229146
In response to MyOhMighty
Peachtree Hoops: Mike Muscala - Season in Review
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jkrun80
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05-11-17 07:14 PM - Post#229242
In response to Bison137
Season highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBtkw2gPmdY
They missed a few - especially some nice blocks and his assist to Millsap that won the OT Cleveland game.
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crd012
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05-12-17 12:06 PM - Post#229270
In response to jkrun80
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2017/5/12/15622526/r...
As thorough of an article you will find on Muscala and why the Hawks should resign him.
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Bison89
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05-12-17 01:03 PM - Post#229275
In response to crd012
Wow, the guy who wrote this makes a very strong argument for the Hawks to resign Muscala. I said it before, but HE WOULD LOOK GREAT IN A SIXERS' UNIFORM!
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jkrun80
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05-12-17 03:34 PM - Post#229282
In response to Bison89
Great article. I hope the Hawks see it that way. He's a great fit for their system and has done well there.
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HuskyColonial
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05-13-17 08:09 AM - Post#229290
In response to jkrun80
Mike could do well anywhere. The Hawks will have to pay to keep him.
Silly question. At what point do players stop improving? I'm talking about the relationship between age and declining skills versus getting better and improving their craft. 28? 30? Most guys are out of the League by the time they would "hit their primes".
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Bison89
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05-13-17 09:21 AM - Post#229291
In response to HuskyColonial
Husky, that is a good question. You rarely hear of players drastically improving or becoming an All Star after 4-5 years in the Association. So, if 21 is the average age of a rookie, then, 25-26 is probably the age in question. BTW, this is just a guess.
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Bison137
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05-13-17 02:15 PM - Post#229294
In response to Bison89
Husky, that is a good question. You rarely hear of players drastically improving or becoming an All Star after 4-5 years in the Association. So, if 21 is the average age of a rookie, then, 25-26 is probably the age in question. BTW, this is just a guess.
Your guess is a good one. There have been various studies, including two I link below. They generally show an NBA player's peak is at age 25 or 26. Some of course peak later, including a number of superstars.
One factor, other than age itself, is likely wear and tear on the body. NBA players can play as many as 110 games a year, including playoffs, and the constant running and physical style of play - plus the constant travel - has to gradually destroy a player's body. Add in the inevitable injuries, and a player's peak is likely dependent on more than just age. In this regard, Mike can be viewed as a young 25. His minutes have been limited and thus far he has avoided serious injury. He should have more left in the tank than many NBA players. For example, Mike has played about 2800 NBA minutes. CJ McCollum, who was in the same draft class, has played about 7800 minutes. The Bucks' Giannis Antetokounmpo, who was also in the same draft class, has played almost 10,600 minutes.
Although I can't prove it, I would guess that PF's and Centers, who don't rely on speed and explosive moves, may have more longevity than guards and wings. That might weigh in Mike's favor as well.
http://wagesofwins.com/nba-players-age-like- milk/
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=...
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jkrun80
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05-13-17 06:00 PM - Post#229296
In response to Bison137
Mike's other advantage is having played 4 years in college and only 3 full seasons in the NBA. The one-and-dones who come into the league at 19 would already have 7 seasons of NBA wear and tear by the time they reach 26. I also have read that front court players generally have longer careers (due to fewer injuries) than back court players.
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HuskyColonial
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05-13-17 10:35 PM - Post#229299
In response to jkrun80
I have heard that bigs take longer to mature. Interestingly Paul Milsap is one of those guys who peaked late
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Bison137
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Mike Muscala 2016-17
05-13-17 11:49 PM - Post#229300
In response to HuskyColonial
I have heard that bigs take longer to mature. Interestingly Paul Milsap is one of those guys who peaked late
Good point. While it's extremely unlikely that MM will ever reach the level of Millsap, there are similarities in their background. Both are PF's - although MM is a few inches taller. Neither played for a power-conference school. (Millsap is from Louisiana Tech). And Millsap was the 47th player taken in the draft - three spots later than MM.
Millsap played 18-20 mpg off the bench his first two years - averaging 7-8 ppg - before becoming a solid starter his third year. He turned into a star in his 5th season, at age 25, and has been one ever since. He is one of the more consistent players in the game - steadily averaging about 17 ppg and about 8 rpg for each of the last seven years.
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vic42
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05-25-17 10:40 AM - Post#229644
In response to Bison137
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/194479 12/josh-m...
McRoberts gets $6 mil. As Mike is a more valuable & versatile player, hope this bodes well for him.
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Bison89
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05-25-17 11:21 AM - Post#229650
In response to vic42
Vic, I don't think that this is a new contract. It seems to be a player option for an additional year at $6 million. That being said, I would be surprised if Mike does not get a 3-4 year deal at $6-$8 million per year which absolutely blows my mind.
GO MIKE!!!
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