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11-06-16 06:08 PM - Post#212593
So with the season about to kick off, who's the starting 5 for your team?
For Dartmouth I'm going with:
Guilian Smith
Taylor Johnson
Miles Wright
Evan Boudreaux
Ike Ngwudo
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The Starting Five 11-06-16 10:40 PM - Post#212600
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PRINCETON:
Amir Bell
Spencer Weisz
Pete Miller
Steve Cook
Henry Caruso
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Re: The Starting Five 11-06-16 11:51 PM - Post#212603
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PENN:
AJ Brodeur
Matt Howard
Matt MacDonald
Jackson Donahue
Caleb Wood
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11-07-16 12:17 PM - Post#212624
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PENN:
Agree with SomeGuy
Brodeur
Howard
MacDonald
Wood
Donahue
CORNELL:
Onuorah
Gettings
Wright
Hatter
Morgan
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11-07-16 01:03 PM - Post#212628
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Does that mean i have to agree with rbg about Cornell?!
I'll go:
Onuorah
Abdur-Raoof
Smith
Fallas
Morgan
Also, I'll take Harrison and Cameron Smith over Ike and Guillien for Dartmouth!
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11-07-16 01:18 PM - Post#212631
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Princeton:
2nd team:
Hans Brase
Miles Stephens
Devin Cannady
Mike LeBlanc
Aaron Young
3rd team:
Richmond Aririguzoh
Alec Brennan
Vittorio Reynoso-Avila
Jose Morales
Khyan Rayner
Bench:
Jackson Forbes
Will Gladson
Noah Bramlage
Elias Berberi
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GoBigGreenBasketball
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11-07-16 01:32 PM - Post#212632
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Kevin Whitaker over at NYC Buckets has some insights heading into Friday. It sounds like he's made some calls around. Worth a look as you consider your 5.
Ivy League Roundup
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11-07-16 02:33 PM - Post#212636
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Very insightful article. Thanks for the heads up.
As for Harvard, although Juzang (14pts) and Aiken (17pts) played well vs MIT and Kevin Whittaker is merely recognizing that, I expect them to play behind Corbin Miller and Andre Chapman, neither of whom played vs MIT, and, of course, Corey Johnson, who only played 10 minutes vs MIT. Amaker has the depth and schedule to rest key players, and it started against MIT as only Siyani (returning from injury) and Chris Egi (working his way into a larger role) saw significant minutes among upperclassmen.
In competitive games, I don't see Amaker eschewing Johnson, Miller or Chapman for Juzang nor Siyani for Aiken. Aiken will get minutes as Siyani's backup, but Juzang might have to wait for next year.
Towns is set as the SF. Matchups and performance will dictate who joins Chris Lewis off the bench - Baker, Perez, or Dragovich or who backups up Seth Towns.
Starters:
Edosomwan
Egi
Towns
Johnson
Chambers
This lineup allows Chris Lewis to be on the court when Zena is not. He could dominate some Ivy backup 4/5's. It also provides three long range shooting options. On the other hand, the FT shooting deficiencies of Zena and Egi should impact the end of game lineups in close games.
That's starting only one player under 6'5". If the game dictates small ball, Aiken/Miller/Chatfield/Ju zang stand ready and if an opponent pressures the guards, Chambers and Aiken should join forces to make such a team pay for that strategy (see the Penn board) and Juzang/Chatfield/Miller could join them.
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11-07-16 02:51 PM - Post#212638
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Brown's starters (season not IL)
Blackmon
Spieth
Fuller
Okolie
Tripplet
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GoBigGreenBasketball
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11-07-16 04:42 PM - Post#212644
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Any Yale and Columbia gurus to round out the IL projections?
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11-07-16 07:20 PM - Post#212652
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I think Yale will be:
Mason
Phills
Dallier
Bruner
Downey
Oni/Phills and Downey/Reynolds would be the biggest question marks in my opinion.
For Columbia, if I had to hazard a guess...
Smith
Hickman
Meisner
McComber
Petrasek
...but there are plenty of Lions gurus around these parts that probably have a better idea than I.
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11-07-16 07:25 PM - Post#212654
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For Brown, I'd love to see Nos. 1-5 on the floor a lot together, but I'm not sure that lineup can play any D.
I'll make that my guess:
Blackmon
Anderson
Okolie
Spieth
Fuller
Though, I'd imagine Anderson sits to start in favor of a relatively bigger guard like a Hobbie.
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11-07-16 09:33 PM - Post#212665
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Dockerty will play more than Anderson, Wilkinson will get minutes, Erebor too.
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11-07-16 10:34 PM - Post#212669
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I'll take Anderson over Daugherty in a noticeable way. I agree that both Wilkinson and Erebor will be given opportunities. Frankly anyone with size that can remotely play will be given a shot on this team...
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11-08-16 12:21 AM - Post#212670
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Fully agree the scrimmage could have been a total fluke for Juzang, but I'd be pretty surprised if Aiken didn't play more than Miller/Chatfield.
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11-08-16 12:34 AM - Post#212671
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In my gut I think you're right. But Amaker does have a history of prefering to bring freshman along slowly. I'm sure he would prefer not to 'disrespect' Corbin and possibly Andre as well. Regardless, by tournament time I believe Mike has been expecting Aiken to be an eventual starter this year for quite some time. If Aiken and Siyani play together it does present a size issue on defense. Also, need Aiken to be on the court when Siyani isn't. Precedent could be Siyani and Brandyn - they often didn't play together until crunch time.
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11-08-16 04:15 PM - Post#212711
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The scrimmage wasn't a fluke for Juzang. The kid can go with the best of them. Check his stats from the Under Armour Circuit.
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11-08-16 05:45 PM - Post#212720
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But..how much he will play that is up to coach.
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11-08-16 05:49 PM - Post#212721
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Thanks, that's exciting, especially since Juzang hasn't received much attention in this class. Didn't mean to undercut Juzang, just noting that the 27 minutes he played against MIT was because Amaker sat his depth chart at the 2: Johnson (10 min), Miller (0), McCarthy (3) and Chatfield (0). PG's Chambers and Aiken are likely untouchable. Interested to see if Juzang even gets on the floor againt Stanford Friday night.
I really liked what Juzang showed. It bodes well for Juzang next year or if the opponent has a physical PG that either Siyani or Brice need help on defensively this year.
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11-11-16 11:09 AM - Post#212950
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Does that mean i have to agree with rbg about Cornell?!
I'll go:
Onuorah
Abdur-Raoof
Smith
Fallas
Morgan
Also, I'll take Harrison and Cameron Smith over Ike and Guillien for Dartmouth!
Looks like Projected Starters are:
Matt Morgan (G; So.), Robert Hatter (G, Sr.), Donovan Wright (G, So.), Stone Gettings (F, So.), David Onuorah (C, Sr.)
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11-11-16 11:12 AM - Post#212951
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I think Yale will be:
Mason
Phills
Dallier
Bruner
Downey
Oni/Phills and Downey/Reynolds would be the biggest question marks in my opinion.
For Columbia, if I had to hazard a guess...
Smith
Hickman
Meisner
McComber
Petrasek
...but there are plenty of Lions gurus around these parts that probably have a better idea than I.
Looks like projected starters are:
14 KENDALL
JACKSON
Sr. • G • 5-8 • 160
10 QUINTON
ADLESH
So. • G • 6-0 • 196
11 LUKAS
MEISNER
So. • F • 6-8 • 220
33 LUKE
PETRASEK
Sr. • F • 6-10 • 230
22 NATE
HICKMAN
Jr. • G • 6-4 • 180
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11-11-16 01:04 PM - Post#212972
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To me - that signals this year will be worse than expected. Looks like Engles wants to institute his style rather than try to do the best with what he has. Will probably set Columbia up well for the future, but might not achieve the best results today...
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11-11-16 01:57 PM - Post#212981
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What do you think the lineup would be if he was trying to win this year? I would have thought Petrasek, Meisner, and Hickman would be likely in that scenario, because they are the most experienced guys at their positions. Jackson over Davis is a tougher call, since Davis was ahead of Jackson in the rotation for much of the year, though that varied some. But again, Jackson is a senior. So to me, the only big surprise for winning now is Adlesh, but I think he was hurt last year.
To me, playing more of the guys who are unknown quantities would be an indicator that it isn't about this year.
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11-11-16 01:58 PM - Post#212982
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I won't concede until tomorrow, but it's looking good for rbg.
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11-11-16 02:00 PM - Post#212983
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Who starts for Yale now? I assume Dallier plays point. Oni and Phils both start now?
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Re: The Starting Five 11-11-16 02:31 PM - Post#212986
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- GoBigGreenBasketball Said:
So with the season about to kick off, who's the starting 5 for your team?
For Dartmouth I'm going with:
Guilian Smith
Taylor Johnson
Miles Wright
Evan Boudreaux
Ike Ngwudo
Dartmouth's Media Guide Starters:
2 Ike Ngwudo F 6-6 205 Sr. 1.0 0.9 Played in 24 games over first three seasons, no starts
12 Evan Boudreaux F 6-8 220 Sr. 17.7 9.4 Ivy Rookie of the Year, USBWA All-District
4 Taylor Johnson G 6-4 180 Jr. 7.0 2.5 52.3 FG pct., 46.7 3FG pct., 90.7 FT pct.
14 Guilien Smith G 6-2 200 So. 5.0 1.3 Scored in double figures 7 times as a rookie
22 Miles Wright G 6-5 210 Jr. 11.2 4.4 Tied Leede Arena record of 39 pts. in a game last year
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11-11-16 02:42 PM - Post#212987
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Brown's starters (season not IL)
Blackmon
Spieth
Fuller
Okolie
Tripplet
Brown Media Guide Projected Starters:
Forward 1 Travis Fuller, sophomore (2.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg)
Forward 3 Steven Spieth, senior (10.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg)
Guard 4 Obi Okolie, sophomore (10.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
Guard 5 Tavon Blackmon, senior (13.3 ppg, 5.5 apg)
Guard 12 JR Hobbie, senior (9.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg)
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11-11-16 02:55 PM - Post#212988
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Very insightful article. Thanks for the heads up.
As for Harvard, although Juzang (14pts) and Aiken (17pts) played well vs MIT and Kevin Whittaker is merely recognizing that, I expect them to play behind Corbin Miller and Andre Chapman, neither of whom played vs MIT, and, of course, Corey Johnson, who only played 10 minutes vs MIT. Amaker has the depth and schedule to rest key players, and it started against MIT as only Siyani (returning from injury) and Chris Egi (working his way into a larger role) saw significant minutes among upperclassmen.
In competitive games, I don't see Amaker eschewing Johnson, Miller or Chapman for Juzang nor Siyani for Aiken. Aiken will get minutes as Siyani's backup, but Juzang might have to wait for next year.
Towns is set as the SF. Matchups and performance will dictate who joins Chris Lewis off the bench - Baker, Perez, or Dragovich or who backups up Seth Towns.
Starters:
Edosomwan
Egi
Towns
Johnson
Chambers
This lineup allows Chris Lewis to be on the court when Zena is not. He could dominate some Ivy backup 4/5's. It also provides three long range shooting options. On the other hand, the FT shooting deficiencies of Zena and Egi should impact the end of game lineups in close games.
That's starting only one player under 6'5". If the game dictates small ball, Aiken/Miller/Chatfield/Ju zang stand ready and if an opponent pressures the guards, Chambers and Aiken should join forces to make such a team pay for that strategy (see the Penn board) and Juzang/Chatfield/Miller could join them.
Harvard v Stanford Media Guide Starters:
01..Siyani Chambers..Sr..G..6-0..170
25..Corey Johnson..So..G..6-5..200
00..Chris Lewis..Fr..F..6-9..235
24..Chris Egi..Jr..F..6-9..220
31..Seth Towns..Fr..F..6-7..205
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11-11-16 05:27 PM - Post#213007
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HA! Tommy is the best.
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The Starting Five 11-11-16 05:41 PM - Post#213009
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No Zena? This was my anticipated starting lineup, except Lewis is starting over Zena. There is no way this is a depth chart development. Wonder what we doen't know. Zena is a Power 5 center in a typically undersized mid-major league.
Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 11-11-16 05:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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11-11-16 06:51 PM - Post#213026
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As far as I know, Zena will play a normal amount of minutes. It's possible he got injured during a scrimmage in China, but I don't think so... Tommy has a history of sending a message this way...
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11-11-16 07:05 PM - Post#213029
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Three thoughts:
1. I still don't know who guards Reid Travis. My inclination is either Kyle or Steve. At a loss after that.
2. Two years ago Tommy would bring Zena off the bench. Zena would dominate less athletic backup centers.
3. Tommy looks to build character, not just win games. Of course, character helps win games down the road.
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11-11-16 07:42 PM - Post#213033
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Re: Yale, I think people consistently overlooked the huge role Downey will be expected to play this year (and would have even if Mason were available). He and the other primary front-court backup last year looked pretty capable by the end of the season and in the post-season. They will definitely struggle to find scoring now, but I wouldn't expect as huge a dropoff in inside play on both ends as some have, although the Sears-Sherrod combo was so good that it would be unreasonable to expect them to hold level there.
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