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Username Post: The Starting Five        (Topic#19432)
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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11-11-16 11:12 AM - Post#212951    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:
I think Yale will be:

Mason
Phills
Dallier
Bruner
Downey

Oni/Phills and Downey/Reynolds would be the biggest question marks in my opinion.

For Columbia, if I had to hazard a guess...

Smith
Hickman
Meisner
McComber
Petrasek

...but there are plenty of Lions gurus around these parts that probably have a better idea than I.



Looks like projected starters are:

14 KENDALL
JACKSON
Sr. • G • 5-8 • 160
10 QUINTON
ADLESH
So. • G • 6-0 • 196
11 LUKAS
MEISNER
So. • F • 6-8 • 220
33 LUKE
PETRASEK
Sr. • F • 6-10 • 230
22 NATE
HICKMAN
Jr. • G • 6-4 • 180
"...no excuses - only results!”


 
mrjames 
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11-11-16 01:04 PM - Post#212972    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

To me - that signals this year will be worse than expected. Looks like Engles wants to institute his style rather than try to do the best with what he has. Will probably set Columbia up well for the future, but might not achieve the best results today...

 
SomeGuy 
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11-11-16 01:57 PM - Post#212981    
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What do you think the lineup would be if he was trying to win this year? I would have thought Petrasek, Meisner, and Hickman would be likely in that scenario, because they are the most experienced guys at their positions. Jackson over Davis is a tougher call, since Davis was ahead of Jackson in the rotation for much of the year, though that varied some. But again, Jackson is a senior. So to me, the only big surprise for winning now is Adlesh, but I think he was hurt last year.

To me, playing more of the guys who are unknown quantities would be an indicator that it isn't about this year.

 
SomeGuy 
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11-11-16 01:58 PM - Post#212982    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

I won't concede until tomorrow, but it's looking good for rbg.

 
SomeGuy 
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11-11-16 02:00 PM - Post#212983    
    In response to mrjames

Who starts for Yale now? I assume Dallier plays point. Oni and Phils both start now?

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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Re: The Starting Five
11-11-16 02:31 PM - Post#212986    
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  • GoBigGreenBasketball Said:
So with the season about to kick off, who's the starting 5 for your team?

For Dartmouth I'm going with:

Guilian Smith
Taylor Johnson
Miles Wright
Evan Boudreaux
Ike Ngwudo




Dartmouth's Media Guide Starters:

2 Ike Ngwudo F 6-6 205 Sr. 1.0 0.9 Played in 24 games over first three seasons, no starts
12 Evan Boudreaux F 6-8 220 Sr. 17.7 9.4 Ivy Rookie of the Year, USBWA All-District
4 Taylor Johnson G 6-4 180 Jr. 7.0 2.5 52.3 FG pct., 46.7 3FG pct., 90.7 FT pct.
14 Guilien Smith G 6-2 200 So. 5.0 1.3 Scored in double figures 7 times as a rookie
22 Miles Wright G 6-5 210 Jr. 11.2 4.4 Tied Leede Arena record of 39 pts. in a game last year
"...no excuses - only results!”


 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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11-11-16 02:42 PM - Post#212987    
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  • Old Bear Said:
Brown's starters (season not IL)

Blackmon
Spieth
Fuller
Okolie
Tripplet



Brown Media Guide Projected Starters:

Forward 1 Travis Fuller, sophomore (2.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg)
Forward 3 Steven Spieth, senior (10.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg)
Guard 4 Obi Okolie, sophomore (10.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
Guard 5 Tavon Blackmon, senior (13.3 ppg, 5.5 apg)
Guard 12 JR Hobbie, senior (9.0 ppg, 1.1 rpg)
"...no excuses - only results!”


 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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11-11-16 02:55 PM - Post#212988    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

  • HARVARDDADGRAD Said:
Very insightful article. Thanks for the heads up.

As for Harvard, although Juzang (14pts) and Aiken (17pts) played well vs MIT and Kevin Whittaker is merely recognizing that, I expect them to play behind Corbin Miller and Andre Chapman, neither of whom played vs MIT, and, of course, Corey Johnson, who only played 10 minutes vs MIT. Amaker has the depth and schedule to rest key players, and it started against MIT as only Siyani (returning from injury) and Chris Egi (working his way into a larger role) saw significant minutes among upperclassmen.

In competitive games, I don't see Amaker eschewing Johnson, Miller or Chapman for Juzang nor Siyani for Aiken. Aiken will get minutes as Siyani's backup, but Juzang might have to wait for next year.

Towns is set as the SF. Matchups and performance will dictate who joins Chris Lewis off the bench - Baker, Perez, or Dragovich or who backups up Seth Towns.

Starters:

Edosomwan
Egi
Towns
Johnson
Chambers

This lineup allows Chris Lewis to be on the court when Zena is not. He could dominate some Ivy backup 4/5's. It also provides three long range shooting options. On the other hand, the FT shooting deficiencies of Zena and Egi should impact the end of game lineups in close games.

That's starting only one player under 6'5". If the game dictates small ball, Aiken/Miller/Chatfield/Ju zang stand ready and if an opponent pressures the guards, Chambers and Aiken should join forces to make such a team pay for that strategy (see the Penn board) and Juzang/Chatfield/Miller could join them.



Harvard v Stanford Media Guide Starters:

01..Siyani Chambers..Sr..G..6-0..170
25..Corey Johnson..So..G..6-5..200
00..Chris Lewis..Fr..F..6-9..235
24..Chris Egi..Jr..F..6-9..220
31..Seth Towns..Fr..F..6-7..205
"...no excuses - only results!”


 
mrjames 
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11-11-16 05:27 PM - Post#213007    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

HA! Tommy is the best.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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The Starting Five
11-11-16 05:41 PM - Post#213009    
    In response to mrjames

No Zena? This was my anticipated starting lineup, except Lewis is starting over Zena. There is no way this is a depth chart development. Wonder what we doen't know. Zena is a Power 5 center in a typically undersized mid-major league.





Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 11-11-16 05:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
mrjames 
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11-11-16 06:51 PM - Post#213026    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

As far as I know, Zena will play a normal amount of minutes. It's possible he got injured during a scrimmage in China, but I don't think so... Tommy has a history of sending a message this way...

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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11-11-16 07:05 PM - Post#213029    
    In response to mrjames

Three thoughts:
1. I still don't know who guards Reid Travis. My inclination is either Kyle or Steve. At a loss after that.
2. Two years ago Tommy would bring Zena off the bench. Zena would dominate less athletic backup centers.
3. Tommy looks to build character, not just win games. Of course, character helps win games down the road.

 
SRP 
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11-11-16 07:42 PM - Post#213033    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Re: Yale, I think people consistently overlooked the huge role Downey will be expected to play this year (and would have even if Mason were available). He and the other primary front-court backup last year looked pretty capable by the end of the season and in the post-season. They will definitely struggle to find scoring now, but I wouldn't expect as huge a dropoff in inside play on both ends as some have, although the Sears-Sherrod combo was so good that it would be unreasonable to expect them to hold level there.

 
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