Bison89
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01-05-17 10:41 PM - Post#217429
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I was just thinking the same thing . . .
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Bison137
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01-05-17 11:16 PM - Post#217431
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By the way, the Bison have just resurfaced in Lunardi's bracketology. They are viewed as a 14 seed, playing Florida State at Orlando in the first round.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/bracke...
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Bison137
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2016-17
01-06-17 12:00 AM - Post#217440
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As we approach the Christmas break, here is what the current Pomeroy predictions are for the final PL win totals in league (out of 18 games):
Lehigh . . 13.6
Bucknell . 12.6
Boston . . 11.0
Holy Cross 10.3
Army . . . . 9.0
Loyola . . . 8.1
Navy . . . . 7.6
Colgate . . 7.2
American . 5.9
Lafayette . 4.8
Looks reasonable in most cases, although I expect American to do better. They have the league's top freshman, PG Nelson, and a very good freshman center. Delante Jones has been in a bit of a slump, but I think they will do better in league play. Boston U might be a threat to surpass 11 wins also. Army has been a huge surprise thus far. Can they keep it up?
Latest Pomeroy projection for the PL standings:
Bucknell . 14-4
Boston . . 13-5
Lehigh . . 12-6
Holy Cross 10-8
Loyola . . 9-9
Army . . . . 8-10
Colgate . 6-12
Navy . . . . 6-12
American 6-12
Lafayette 6-12
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atlantabison
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01-06-17 01:06 PM - Post#217464
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RPI forecast has
Bucknell 14-4
Lehigh 14-4
Boston 12-6
Army 10-8
Holy C. 9-9
Loyola 7-11
Navy 7-11
Colgate 6-12
American 6-12
Lafayette 4-14
for comparison.
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Bison137
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Around the Patriot League 2016-17
01-06-17 01:27 PM - Post#217467
In response to atlantabison
Btw, RPIforecast.com uses Sagarin's predictor model for their W-L forecasts.
It has not been updated for last nights games, so expect to see some movement especially with Lehigh and Army moving down and Lafayette moving up.
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jkrun80
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01-06-17 10:16 PM - Post#217520
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Boston U women came from behind to take the lead vs Navy, but couldn't finish. Their loss leaves the Bison alone in first. Six teams are tied at 2-1. Boston has already tied their league win total from last year. Their looking more like a mid-pack team than a doormat this year.
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jkrun80
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01-06-17 10:20 PM - Post#217521
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My mistake. Boston won 3 league games last year and 3 overall.
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Bison137
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01-07-17 01:23 AM - Post#217530
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Boston U women came from behind to take the lead vs Navy, but couldn't finish. Their loss leaves the Bison alone in first. Six teams are tied at 2-1. Boston has already tied their league win total from last year. Their looking more like a mid-pack team than a doormat this year.
There are several reasons for their improvement:
1 their coach is now in her third year and seems to be doing a good job. Their previous coach was a nightmare and was fired for cause.
2 They have a 6'5" transfer from Monmouth who is playing really well. That is the biggest difference.
3 They have a senior guard who missed much of last year with a knee injury, but has returned and is playing well.
4 Also have a sophomore forward who is greatly improved and a freshman forward who is playing well.
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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01-08-17 05:01 PM - Post#217759
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After today's results:
4-0 Bucknell
4-0 Boston
2-2 Lehigh
2-2 Holy Cross
2-2 Lafayette
2-2 Loyola
1-3 American
1-3 Army
1-3 Colgate
1-3 Navy
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BisonRoadWarrior
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Around the Patriot League 2016-17
01-08-17 05:59 PM - Post#217761
In response to Bucknellbisonfan21
Kempton had a career-high 36 points in Lehigh's 6-point win over American at Stabler.
The Mountain Hawks led by as many as 14 and it was starting to look like they might blow another one down the stretch.
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Bison89
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01-08-17 06:05 PM - Post#217763
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Lehigh is a strange team. Going into the season, they really looked like the favorite to win it all. I still think that they have the talent to defeat any PL team especially if they stop relying on Kempton so much.
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MrPhillie
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01-08-17 06:07 PM - Post#217764
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This isn't PL play, but did you catch the 14-point comeback by Nevada in the final minute?
https://twitter.com/madness2017/status/81 814952747...
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jkrun80
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01-08-17 06:59 PM - Post#217770
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More amazing that they scored 18 points in just over a minute because NM managed to score 4. The two banked 3's are just too much.
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bison63
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01-08-17 07:47 PM - Post#217772
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Pomeroy:
97 Bucknell
118 Lehigh
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2016-17
01-08-17 09:02 PM - Post#217781
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Kempton had a career-high 36 points in Lehigh's 6-point win over American at Stabler.
The Mountain Hawks led by as many as 14 and it was starting to look like they might blow another one down the stretch.
Gasparini, American's freshman center, only played 10 minutes and fouled out. It's no wonder Kempton had a field day. He shot 18 FTs and made 14, plus went 11-17 from the field.
Lehigh has been a menace at Sojka the past few years. Hope the boys are ready for this one.
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jkrun80
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01-08-17 09:13 PM - Post#217782
In response to jkrun80
BTW, Lehigh's bench only score 3 points against American. We certainly have the advantage in depth.
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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01-08-17 09:32 PM - Post#217784
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Matt Klinewski had another great game today for Lafayette with 34 points, 12/17 from the floor and 7 rebounds.
He's quietly the leagues leading scorer in league play so far and is shooting 62.5% and averaging 25.5 points and 7 rebounds.
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Bison89
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01-08-17 10:06 PM - Post#217786
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Pomeroy:
97 Bucknell
118 Lehigh
I have always considered teams that are ranked #100 or better to be good and #50 or better to be very good. So, the Bison are good.
When was the last time that the Bison were ranked better than #100?
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Bison137
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01-08-17 10:45 PM - Post#217789
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When was the last time that the Bison were ranked better than #100?
They were ranked #90 on December 20th 2013, just prior to a bad loss to Marist that dropped them to 117. Early that year they had close road losses at Stanford and St John's, plus impressive road wins at PSU and Albany that got them as high as 63rd. However then they started a long run of mediocre play and fell to 184th after a bad loss at HC. They played better down the stretch and ended up 159th.
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VoiceofNavySports
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01-09-17 07:22 AM - Post#217792
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I think BU, Bucknell, and Lehigh may break off like an iceberg, and then 4-10 will be decided by teams who steal road wins.. Loyola's win over Lehigh could be huge benefit to them down the road.. Great to finally get a password that works to chat with you guys again..
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