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Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2016-17        (Topic#19463)
Bison89 
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01-09-17 11:58 AM - Post#217804    
    In response to VoiceofNavySports

Navy, please keep the info and thoughts coming. The more people who post the better!
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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01-09-17 12:49 PM - Post#217810    
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  • VoiceofNavySports Said:
I think BU, Bucknell, and Lehigh may break off like an iceberg, and then 4-10 will be decided by teams who steal road wins.. Loyola's win over Lehigh could be huge benefit to them down the road.. Great to finally get a password that works to chat with you guys again..

Ahoy there, and welcome back. It does feel that way about the top three.

Our Wednesday game versus Lehigh is huge; with Boston U having already beaten them and then handling Navy more easily than we, the Terriers seemingly have the claim to being top team in the league for the moment.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-09-17 12:58 PM - Post#217812    
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Boston's body of work in OOC is far less impressive than Bucknell's.

 
Bison89 
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01-09-17 03:05 PM - Post#217832    
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  • HuskyColonial Said:
Boston's body of work in OOC is far less impressive than Bucknell's.



Husky, I have heard this, but according to Kenpom.com, the Bison's strength of schedule is 160 and Boston U's 205. So, they really do not seem to be that far apart.

According to realtimerpi.com, Bucknell's RPI strength of schedule is only 223 and Boston U's is 173. http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_patr_Men.html

137, please help interpret these numbers.
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Bison137 
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01-09-17 05:03 PM - Post#217849    
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  • Bison89 Said:
  • HuskyColonial Said:
Boston's body of work in OOC is far less impressive than Bucknell's.



Husky, I have heard this, but according to Kenpom.com, the Bison's strength of schedule is 160 and Boston U's 205. So, they really do not seem to be that far apart.

According to realtimerpi.com, Bucknell's RPI strength of schedule is only 223 and Boston U's is 173. http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_patr_Men.html

137, please help interpret these numbers.



Two comments:

1. Both Pomeroy and RPI ignore games with D2/D3 teams. When you add in Boston's game with Western New England, their ranking drop significantly.

2. RPI is very inaccurate for a number of reasons, one of them being that it ignores margin of victory in the calculation. Pomroy is much more accurate.

Also note that if you are looking at Lehigh's strength of schedule, they would rank much lower if their game with Cabrini was factored in.




 
Bison137 
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01-09-17 05:07 PM - Post#217850    
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One other comment on the above. It is true that Bucknell's strength of schedule ranking is 160. But that ranking has been significantly reduced by playing four mediocre league opponents. If you look strictly at their out of conference schedule, i.e. the schedule that they had control over, their ranking is 105th.




 
Bison89 
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01-09-17 08:14 PM - Post#217869    
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  • Bison137 Said:
One other comment on the above. It is true that Bucknell's strength of schedule ranking is 160. But that ranking has been significantly reduced by playing four mediocre league opponents. If you look strictly at their out of conference schedule, i.e. the schedule that they had control over, their ranking is 105th.



Now, that is good info. 105 is pretty good. Do you happen to know Lehigh and Boston U's OOC strength of schedule rankings?
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HuskyColonial 
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01-09-17 08:37 PM - Post#217873    
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I was actually just givIng the OOC's the eyeball test but that stats are great. A road win at Vandy and home over Richmond are better wins than any other team in the PL has in the OOC. Question becomes, who has Boston beat?

 
Bison89 
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01-10-17 12:16 PM - Post#217902    
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This is probably a 2017-2018 topic, but I noticed that the HC board is talking about HC and Manhattan among other teams traveling to North Ireland for a December 2017 basketball tournament:

http://wwlp.com/2017/01/05/american-c ollege-basket...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/basketball/3762 1815

I have heard of tournaments in the Bahamas and Puerto Rico in December, but Northern Ireland is new to me. I would love to see Bucknell play in a tournament overseas sometime. I am fairly certain that it would not be difficult to convince Mrs. Bison89 to take a trip out of the country and see a little hoops while traveling.
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BisonRoadWarrior 
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01-10-17 01:00 PM - Post#217909    
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Wow, that is indeed quite the change from the typical holiday tourney destination. My daydream for that is a Bucknell appearance in the Virgin Islands Paradise Jam, which this year included mid-majors Montana, Oral Roberts and Loyola-Chicago.

However, I've never heard any buzz about the Bison seeking to participate in any of those destination tournaments.

 
Bison89 
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01-10-17 07:06 PM - Post#217942    
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If it ever happens, count me in!
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atlantabison 
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01-10-17 08:25 PM - Post#217952    
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I would say their win over Lehigh is a better win than ours over Richmond, the Northeastern win is up there too.

Ray Bucknell!


 
VoiceofNavySports 
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01-12-17 08:17 AM - Post#218067    
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Navy wins third straight at Reitz Arena, 75-62. Navy Point-guard play improving, Ed Alade becoming a contributor in pivot, Shawn Anderson getting back to what he does best driving and dishing. Defense terrific in 2nd half holding Hounds to 34%

Edited by VoiceofNavySports on 01-12-17 08:17 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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01-16-17 10:27 AM - Post#218471    
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Boston plays at Loyola tonight at 7:00 on CBS Sports network. Boston has a couple long road trips this week with this Loyola trip and their trip to Bucknell for Saturday's game.

 
DrBison 
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01-16-17 12:18 PM - Post#218478    
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Long trips indeed but I do understand they fly from Boston to games at Loyola, American, and Navy.

 
bison63 
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01-16-17 08:38 PM - Post#218543    
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Great crowd at Loyola as hounds taking it o Boston in the early going. 30-16 with 7:13 in first.

 
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01-16-17 09:10 PM - Post#218544    
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Loyola up 12 at the half. Knock yourselves out hounds.

 
jkrun80 
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01-16-17 09:47 PM - Post#218549    
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After leading by 17, Loyola goes scoreless for four minutes. Lead is down to 9. They're lucky it's not closer.

 
Bison7882 
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01-16-17 09:56 PM - Post#218550    
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Walker and Gregory are playing really well for Loyola! I hope they get it out of their system before playing the Bison.

 
bison63 
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01-16-17 10:08 PM - Post#218551    
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Hounds using up most of that 19 point lead. BU had cut it to 4. Now 6. 35.6 to go.

 
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