bradley
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11-19-16 11:22 AM - Post#213521
Does anyone know if you can watch the game on the Patriot League Network or is a subscription needed? Someone told me that you can simply watch the game without a charge.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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11-19-16 11:54 AM - Post#213525
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PLN is free I believe.
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SRP
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11-20-16 03:22 PM - Post#213626
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After 8:40 played, way too many good looks forr
Lehigh but getting tons of good looks for them. Defense appears better when Miller enters. Caruso looking good.
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-20-16 03:46 PM - Post#213628
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Watching out of the corner of my eye at work...
Yes, defense AND tempo pick up with Miller.
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11-20-16 04:00 PM - Post#213629
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Tied at half if Bell's last-second heave was counted as a three. Refs calling a defense-friendly game, lots of travels, charges, no-calls on drives with contact. PU missed too many layup attempts, but the treys were OK at 4/9. Still feel like the Tigers are not exploiting their athletic advantages enough on D. The one possession of matchup zone I noticed went well, and Cannady did a good job of lightly pressuring the Lehigh freshman PG (pressed into starting due to an injury). But they were late to perimeter shooters early in the game and had more trouble keeping guys in front of them than they should have.
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11-20-16 04:25 PM - Post#213632
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Kempton is outplaying Brase on both ends, although Brase had a nice backdoor assist to Cook. I don't know why Brase isn't spacing the floor and shooting some threes; at a minimum he needs to do that to keep his man honest.
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11-20-16 04:34 PM - Post#213634
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Down 9 with 7:22 to go. Lehigh has a couple of hot jump shooters. Some good hustle from Cannady and Stephens, but not much sign of turning it around. Need to wake up now.
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11-20-16 04:48 PM - Post#213637
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10-2run cuts it to one but three empty trips allow Kempton to make a three -point play, Weisz with a huge miss from three.
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-20-16 04:52 PM - Post#213638
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Is Kempton Mika's brother?
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SRP
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11-20-16 04:54 PM - Post#213639
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Lose by nine after giving up a 10-0 run at the end. Need more layup practice.
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Tiger69
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11-20-16 04:54 PM - Post#213640
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Can't help but feel that Brase is a distraction to this team. Leave him home next trip.
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Petrie
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11-20-16 05:05 PM - Post#213641
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Wow, what an incredibly disappointing beginning to the season. Weisz and Bell 10 / 40 from the floor and 6 / 29 from 3 in first 2 games, and both beat repeatedly on drives. Hard to find many positives.
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SRP
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11-20-16 05:08 PM - Post#213642
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Brase could be a great stretch 4, but he can't defend big post men very well, although his effort is great. He made some good offensive plays, but not enough to justify all those minutes unless this is about knocking off his rust. I don't think he attempted one trey. But it would be very misleading to blame the loss on him--there was plenty of blame to go around.
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-20-16 05:58 PM - Post#213645
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Yes of course they win and lose as a team, and there were opportunities to win this one irrespective of the play of Brase.
Nevertheless, the ability of Kempton to get to the hoop and score forced help defense which paved the way for the perimeter shooters. I kept looking for Brendan Connolly.
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sparman
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11-20-16 09:16 PM - Post#213656
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Time for pundits to stop declaring this team the presumptive ivy favorite.
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gokinsmen
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11-20-16 09:52 PM - Post#213659
In response to sparman
I was hoping for a special season, but it looks like more of the same. If they lose to Lafayette, then it's panic time.
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Tiger69
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11-21-16 01:11 AM - Post#213665
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I'm still enjoying the warm afterglow of football season. It is too early to start panicking about bball. MH is still looking for the best combinations in his surplus of talent.
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sparman
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11-21-16 09:02 AM - Post#213670
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Yes, and I appreciate patience, but they have played about 6 games already so he should have some ideas. It's OK if the strategy is to sacrifice the OOC and peak at end of regular season, but that almost certainly means foregoing any real chance at a second NCAA slot if they fail to win the tournament. A strong regular conference season is not going to cut it with the selection committee if the OOC performance is weak.
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palestra38
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11-21-16 10:37 AM - Post#213679
In response to sparman
Were you really thinking that the Ivies would get 2 spots this year?
Until the day it happens, I think the thought is pretty much a fantasy.
Princeton is fine--these games really don't matter (although Lehigh is a surprising loss)...just shows how much KenPom is relying on last year's rankings at this point of the year.
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bradley
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11-21-16 11:34 AM - Post#213688
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I had cautioned against expectations exceeding reality as to some of these tough non-conference road games in a prior post but it was suggested that we simply embrace what some pundits had projected. It is not easy to win road games against good teams and BYU and to a lesser extent, Lehigh, are probably going to be good teams this year although time will tell. There are many collegiate teams with considerable talent and winning is never easy against good teams especially on the road.
In a post-game interview, Cook suggested that the Tigers need to get back to basics and start taking a good look in the mirror and take nothing for granted. They had two road games, down by 1 point, and played poorly over the final 5 to 6 minutes. Gut check time.
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JadwinGeorge
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11-21-16 11:51 AM - Post#213690
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As an eternal Tiger optimist I am disappointed but hardly discouraged after two tough road games against very good teams. Mika and Kempton are two excellent big men, both much better than DNH and we couldn't stop him. Brase had trouble with those type players before he was hurt.I believe he will bet better going forward once he's comfortable on the floor. Haven't looked at the stats yet but I suspect we lost this one on poor shooting, particularly from beyond the arc. We get within one and had three empty possessions. Then, a Kempton three point play ended the game effectively. Lehigh played well and obviously was geared up for their home opener. I agree that a loss to Lafayette will suggest something seriously wrong, but won't happen.
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-21-16 12:05 PM - Post#213694
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Kempton is much better than I realized. Guess it helps to be coached as a kid by an NBA big man. Mika also excellent.
As much as I like a help defense, at some point you must concede the two points to a big man who has worked in deep, avoid the foul, keep tight to the perimeter shooters, and come back down the floor looking for a 3-pointer. The foul shot turns it into a three pointer, and lets the big man catch his breath. Keep him moving.
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Tiger69
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11-21-16 02:58 PM - Post#213716
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Well, I directed a few choice words at the screen in the dying minutes of the Lehigh game. But, I also did that at the end of the Harvard fballl game and eventually things worked out well. Besides, if the unlikely happens and the Bean Town Boys win the less-than-one-day Tournament after losing the 14 game League Championship, I would expect them, sportsmen that they are, to forgo the NCAA bid in favor of the rightful League Champion. 
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palestra38
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11-21-16 03:07 PM - Post#213717
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You mean as Joe Restic demanded in 1982? http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/ Joe-Fla...
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SRP
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11-21-16 03:58 PM - Post#213723
In response to palestra38
Brendan Connolly ( or even Mack Darrow) would have been handy yesterday, but I thought Miller looked pretty good during his time on the court. MH likes to go small at times, especially when behind, but it only works if the offensive mismatch wins by more than the defensive mismatch loses. Draymond Green pulls that off a lot for Golden State, but Brase was not at all Green-like against the Mountain Hawks.
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SRP
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11-21-16 04:14 PM - Post#213725
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And if Mitch is worried, I'm worried:
http://www.trentonian.com/sports/20161120/princ eto...
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Tiger69
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11-21-16 04:47 PM - Post#213730
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Interesting. In the unlikely event that my chain of events plays out, I'll call on Joe Restic. But, I won't bet the ranch that anything will change this time either. 
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-21-16 05:02 PM - Post#213733
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MH likes to go small at times, especially when behind, but it only works if the offensive mismatch wins by more than the defensive mismatch loses.
Was the 1-3-1 used at all? Anything to speed up the game would play to our advantage in depth.
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SRP
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11-21-16 06:33 PM - Post#213753
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
They used it for one possession (maybe there was a second, I'm not sure). In general, I like this team more when it is in an aggressive defensive posture, given that they are giving up lots of penetration anyway. Make the opponent stop dribbling and start passing and then use your long arms and court sense to get in the passing lanes and collapse on the ball when it does go inside.
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11-21-16 07:26 PM - Post#213763
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Have to give Henderson high marks for being candid : bad practices, , " not very pretty right now", and "I'm at a little bit of a loss ".
Same players, that look so much less effective than last year., running basically the same system. Seems explanation must be related to mental approach. I'm optimistic they'll get it together. But wonder if we are witnessing the effect of losing Brian Earl's influence.
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-21-16 07:54 PM - Post#213765
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But wonder if we are witnessing the effect of losing Brian Earl's influence.
Hmmmm.
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Tiger69
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11-21-16 11:22 PM - Post#213786
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Which brings up the addition of Kittles to the coaching staff. Is he the guy who will be working with the big men and responsible for preparing them for challenges like those in the first two games?
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bradley
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11-21-16 11:25 PM - Post#213787
In response to Petrie
When I heard that Lehigh's PG Ross was not playing, I thought that Tigers caught a big break but his replacement, a freshman, shoots 7 out of 8 and 3 out of 4 3 pointers. Lehigh shooters made some really tough 3 point shots. The Basketball Gods are putting the Tigers through the ringer, deservedly so.
They are out of sync, especially offensively, and I believe that Brase playing down low is a factor. Weisz and Bell have been brutal shooting and yet they were down 1 pt with less than 3 minutes to go. The loss of Earl may also be a factor.
All I can say is that Lafayette will be facing a hornet's nest. If it is a tight game, very unlikely, the Tigers are more troubled than I believe.
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sparman
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11-21-16 11:34 PM - Post#213789
In response to palestra38
Were you really thinking that the Ivies would get 2 spots this year? Until the day it happens, I think the thought is pretty much a fantasy.
No, I have always thought this is, as you say, fantasy until proven otherwise.
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