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12-02-16 09:48 AM - Post#214646
This game presents a strong common-opponent benchmarking opportunity, as the Explorers just hosted Lehigh on Wednesday, beating the Mountain Hawks 89-81.
Pomeroy has La Salle at 107 and the Bison at 137.
(Some amusing writing and quips in this piece on the Lehigh game and how it pitted two PhD coaches against each other http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/college s/la_sa... )
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12-02-16 03:59 PM - Post#214680
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From La Salle's preview article:
•An interesting connection exists between La Salle University and Bucknell assistant coach Joe Meehan.
•Joe's grandfather, also named Joe, was a player on La Salle's very first basketball team in 1931 and was a team captain during his career with the Explorers
•The youngest Joe Meehan played high school ball at St. Joe's Prep under former La Salle head coach Speedy Morris.
http://goexplorers.com/news/2016/12/1/mens-b asketb...
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Bison89
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12-02-16 04:32 PM - Post#214681
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
I am so bummed out. Mrs. Bison89 just gave me a total guilt trip about going to the La Salle game and missing our sons' first high school swim meet of the season. As a dad, you gotta do what you gotta do. Oh well.
GO BISON!
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12-02-16 04:37 PM - Post#214682
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LaSalle has a very experienced team, with a large number of transfers from big-time programs. Here is a quick rundown of their main players:
- Jordan Price - 5th year wing who transferred from Auburn and is averaging over 17 ppg for the third straight year.
- BJ Johnson - 4th year forward who transferred from Syracuse and is averaging 18 ppg.
- Cleon Roberts - 5th year wing who transferred from Georgia Southern and is in his third year as a LaSalle starter.
- Pookie Powell - 3rd year PG who transferred from Memphis.
- Amar Stukes - 4th year junior who started last year at PG.
- Demetrius Henry - 4th year PF/C who was a two-year starter at South Carolina before transferring.
- Tony Washington - 4th year center who started last year.
Note that those seven have collectively played 29 seasons (counting this year). Bucknell will rarely play a team with that much experience. Hopefully they won't play well as a unit.
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Bison137
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12-02-16 04:38 PM - Post#214683
In response to Bison89
I am so bummed out. Mrs. Bison89 just gave me a total guilt trip about going to the La Salle game and missing our sons' first high school swim meet of the season. As a dad, you gotta do what you gotta do. Oh well.
Surreptitiously drain the pool early Saturday morning. You can go to the rescheduled meet.
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res
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12-02-16 04:55 PM - Post#214684
In response to Bison137
Surreptitiously drain the pool early Saturday morning. You can go to the rescheduled meet.
"I'll get us a rainout."
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Bison137
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12-02-16 05:41 PM - Post#214688
In response to res
Bison Article:
http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_O...
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jkrun80
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12-02-16 08:22 PM - Post#214696
In response to Bison89
I am so bummed out. Mrs. Bison89 just gave me a total guilt trip about going to the La Salle game and missing our sons' first high school swim meet of the season. As a dad, you gotta do what you gotta do. Oh well.
GO BISON!
I spent many more hours at swim meets (and practices) than at basketball games in the mid-2000's. I feel your pain.
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Bison89
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12-03-16 07:30 AM - Post#214704
In response to jkrun80
From looking over the La Salle board, their fans appear to be overlooking this game. There is significantly more interest in discussing the Lehigh game that was played earlier this week and their upcoming Nova game. Let's hope that their players are thinking the same way.
http://explorertown.proboards.com/board/1/explorer...
Go Bison!
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Bison89
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12-03-16 10:46 AM - Post#214710
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Looks like there is online video available. Does anybody know if it is free? I can watch a swim meet and a basketball game at the same time!
http://www.atlantic10.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?...
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12-03-16 11:20 AM - Post#214712
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Thank you for the link 89. We are in the middle of an away game stretch with three more away games until they are back home. There was only one home game from Nov. 19 until December 19 and the next home Saturday game is January 21!
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Bison54
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12-03-16 11:32 AM - Post#214713
In response to Paulie777
Don't forget the women play at 2 PM today at Rutgers. The ladies are good and are capable of winning. Tough is the conflict in scheduling
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HuskyColonial
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12-03-16 03:14 PM - Post#214723
In response to Bison54
Nate Jones must read this board
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HuskyColonial
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12-03-16 03:22 PM - Post#214724
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The in game replays are beyond annoying.
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JDBison2010
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12-03-16 03:28 PM - Post#214725
In response to HuskyColonial
Nate Jones must read this board
Just needed a fire lit under him. Playing with confidence
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JDBison2010
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12-03-16 03:29 PM - Post#214726
In response to HuskyColonial
The in game replays are beyond annoying.
Doubly annoying that they can't mute the audio in the replay
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MrPhillie
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12-03-16 03:35 PM - Post#214727
In response to JDBison2010
It is annoying that even the audio feed cannot work on a stinking iPhone. Cannot use tunein app for Eagle 107 due to contractual agreements, cannot listen thru Bisonvision while on my iPhone.....all of this technology and still can't get the game.
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Bison89
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12-03-16 03:52 PM - Post#214728
In response to MrPhillie
POW! is just as annoying as BINGO!
Now, I know why Jones is starting.
A little more D would be nice.
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12-03-16 04:01 PM - Post#214729
In response to Bison89
Thank goodness for Nate Jones today! Who saw THIS coming??? Yeah some better defense would be nice. Man, I guess O'Reilly is still in a slump....just don't know how much floor time he can see if he is going to shoot just 20-30%. He has to shoot well in order to play, imo.
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MrPhillie
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12-03-16 04:23 PM - Post#214730
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Wow, turnovers are really hurting now.
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HuskyColonial
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12-03-16 04:36 PM - Post#214731
In response to MrPhillie
LaSalle color commentator acts as if we only play PL teams. Sloppy play and commentary.
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Bison89
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12-03-16 04:57 PM - Post#214732
In response to HuskyColonial
Ugly 2nd half.
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oldschoolbb54
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12-03-16 05:02 PM - Post#214733
In response to Bison89
Good to see Ryan Frazier in the house.
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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12-03-16 05:15 PM - Post#214734
In response to oldschoolbb54
Good to see Ryan Frazier in the house.
Cohen, Banas, Hoffman, Badmas and Enoch were also in the house
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oldschoolbb54
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12-03-16 05:23 PM - Post#214742
In response to Bucknellbisonfan21
Did you get a chance to converse with any of them ?
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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12-03-16 07:30 PM - Post#214806
In response to oldschoolbb54
Did you get a chance to converse with any of them ?
I did not
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MrPhillie
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12-03-16 08:06 PM - Post#214813
In response to Bucknellbisonfan21
Turnovers hurt as did poor shooting in second half. Nana, O'Reilly and Kimbal didn't have it today. Did Nate get any shots in the second half? Stephen also had zero assists in he second half. Just not a good half of basketball. Can't win them all. Hopefully a more complete effort against Fairfield.
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Bison7882
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12-03-16 09:35 PM - Post#214819
In response to MrPhillie
My wife and I just returned from the game and dinner in Bucks County. It's a shame. We played so well in the first half. In the first few minutes of the second half we looked like deer caught in the headlights. LaSalle really turned up the intensity at both ends of the court. I lost count of the number of our soft passes that were stolen or nearly so. The difference in athleticism was readily apparent, as did LaSalle's height advantage. Also, I was very impressed with LaSalle's FT shooting and disappointed with ours. This was one of those games where it only took one run to make the difference. Credit LaSalle. We'll have to play better against Fairfield and Siena. Btw, I'm wondering whether Zach is feeling under the weather. He just didn't look himself today both in his performance and his body language.
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Bison54
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12-03-16 10:26 PM - Post#214823
In response to Bison7882
I also thought Nana looked winded today, as he did against Richmond. Maybe the flu bug has struck?
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Bison137
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12-03-16 11:07 PM - Post#214825
In response to Bison7882
Bg My wife and I just returned from the game and dinner in Bucks County. It's a shame. We played so well in the first half. In the first few minutes of the second half we looked like deer caught in the headlights. LaSalle really turned up the intensity at both ends of the court. I lost count of the number of our soft passes that were stolen or nearly so. The difference in athleticism was readily apparent, as did LaSalle's height advantage. Also, I was very impressed with LaSalle's FT shooting and disappointed with ours. This was one of those games where it only took one run to make the difference. Credit LaSalle. We'll have to play better against Fairfield and Siena. Btw, I'm wondering whether Zach is feeling under the weather. He just didn't look himself today both in his performance and his body language.
1. Yes, a lot of ill-advised passes.
2. I think a few players may have been under the weather.
3. Bison hit 13-17 on FT's (.765), so I don't think that was an issue.
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12-03-16 11:20 PM - Post#214827
In response to MrPhillie
Turnovers hurt as did poor shooting in second half. Nana, O'Reilly and Kimbal didn't have it today. Did Nate get any shots in the second half? Stephen also had zero assists in he second half..
Kimbal got very few shot attempts today, as LaSalle presumably reacted to his huge game the other night. O'Reilly otoh continues to struggle shooting the ball, which is a problem when that is the main reason you're on the court. Nate btw, after his huge first half, had only one shot attempt (a missed three) in the second half, as LaSalle made some defensive adjustments at half time.
True, Stephen had no assists in the second half - but the entire team only had one assist. Several reasons for the lack of assists:
- Way too many missed shots
- Stephen penetrated a lot off the dribble and took the shot, since they left him open. I would have liked to see him do that a lot more and a lot earlier. He is very good shooting in the middle of the lane off the dribble.
- Nana made several baskets, where the play started with an entry pass but he then backed in the defender and made a move. With college scoring rules, that often is not an assist.
- several passes to Nana led to shooting fouls - which is a good result but not an assist.
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12-04-16 07:50 AM - Post#214828
In response to Bison137
I actually thought Nana well played considering the rotation of trees that used on him. This was certainly a game that exposed our lack of height. Nana also had to work through consistent double teams which is fine when shooters are making their open looks ala the first half.
I'm not sure why the passing was so sloppy. Sister Margaret's School for Wayward Girls would have picked off most of those passes.
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12-04-16 09:29 AM - Post#214832
In response to Bison137
I have to agree about O'Reilly. I'm really wondering why he's getting so much playing time when he's a one-trick pony and is only shooting 30%. If he's comes in and shoots well, then leave him in. Otherwise, I'd rather see Toomer or Azzinaro get some of his minutes. They're stats aren't any better, but it's a much smaller sample size. At least give them an opportunity when O'Reilly's shots aren't falling.
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HuskyColonial
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12-04-16 10:32 PM - Post#214860
In response to jkrun80
He's a huge liability on defense even for a 3 point specialist.
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La Salle Game
12-05-16 01:55 PM - Post#214901
In response to HuskyColonial
After MacLeay's layup made it a 10-point game with 48 second left, we should have given a foul.
Unbelievable, unlikely comebacks happen.* Worst case is you make the game last longer with the same outcome. Best case is an unforgettable victory and adding a new basketball comeback legend to the list. No real downside, but a huge upside. The fact that it's an unlikely upside does not matter.
Football coaches build decision grids to remove emotion from their choices of when to go for two-point conversions; perhaps basketball coaches should have grids to decide when to consider a game unwinnable. Down 10 points with 48 seconds left is not a throw-in-the-towel scenario.
*Texas A&M: Down 12 with 35 seconds left (astonishingly, the Aggies didn't foul once in that comeback)
*USC: Down 5 with 2.8 seconds left
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jkrun80
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12-05-16 02:23 PM - Post#214907
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
And there was this near miracle comeback ...
http://www.bucknellbison.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSI...
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Bison137
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12-05-16 05:31 PM - Post#214917
In response to jkrun80
If you look at play-by-play, you will see the Bison down by 16 points with less than 2 minutes to play. Then you'll see the Bison down by 2 with about 1 minute left, following a 14-0 run. In the final minute, St. Francis only went 1-6 from the line, but Griffin - with BU down by three - missed two potential game-tying threes. The Bison ran 14 second off the clock looking for the first three - which may have been bad strategy. Down three points, you don't need to look for a three until there are less than 10 seconds left.
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12-05-16 08:13 PM - Post#214928
In response to Bison137
Bucknell scored 14 points in 53 seconds to get within 2. They had five consecutive steals of inbounds passes. IIRC they missed a couple FTs in there or might have tied the game. About half the crowd had left before the 2 minute mark. Luckily we decided the stick it out.
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Re: La Salle Game
02-13-18 02:56 PM - Post#247711
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
After MacLeay's layup made it a 10-point game with 48 seconds left, we should have given a foul.
Unbelievable, unlikely comebacks happen.* Worst case is you make the game last longer with the same outcome. Best case is an unforgettable victory and adding a new basketball comeback legend to the list. No real downside, but a huge upside. The fact that it's an unlikely upside does not matter.
Football coaches build decision grids to remove emotion from their choices of when to go for two-point conversions; perhaps basketball coaches should have grids to decide when to consider a game unwinnable. Down 10 points with 48 seconds left is not a throw-in-the-towel scenario.
*Texas A&M: Down 12 with 35 seconds left (astonishingly, the Aggies didn't foul once in that comeback)
*USC: Down 5 with 2.8 seconds left
To this body of evidence, I now add:
*Bucknell: Down 10 with 55 seconds left, down 8 with 33 seconds left
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Bison137
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02-13-18 03:46 PM - Post#247718
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Sounds better when you say down 8 with 22 seconds left.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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02-13-18 04:58 PM - Post#247741
In response to Bison137
Sounds better when you say down 8 with 22 seconds left.
Good point!
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