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Username Post: Bison Recruits 2018        (Topic#19688)
Bison89 
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06-07-17 10:11 AM - Post#229883    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
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PF Richard Njoku, who is listed at 6-7 or sometimes 6-8, is visiting Bucknell, Brown, and Boston U this week. He has offers from all three, along with Canisius, Binghamton, and UNH. Njoku plays for St. John's College High School, just outside Washington D.C. His coach is Sean McAloon, who was an assistant under Pat Flannery for a couple of years. McAloon played at Randolph-Macon and also coached there.

https://twitter.com/AyalewAdam/status/870 449955823...





McAloon just announced his departure from St. John's to become the head coach at powerful IMG Academy in Florida.

His replacement? , Pat Behan. Behan had done a good job at St. Mary's Ryken, located in extreme southeastern Maryland - well south of D.C.



Not having played at a big-time basketball high school, I do not know for sure, but it would appear that to a certain extent, coaching at a high school powerhouse is similar to coaching in college. Is this a fair assessment?
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
pjm_hoops 
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06-07-17 02:25 PM - Post#229896    
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  • Bison89 Said:
Not having played at a big-time basketball high school, I do not know for sure, but it would appear that to a certain extent, coaching at a high school powerhouse is similar to coaching in college. Is this a fair assessment?




I can't say that for sure, but times certainly have changes on the high school basketball landscape. I coached High School basketball at the JV and Freshman levels, and my salary peaked at $1650. The Varsity coach made about double that. This was less than 15 years ago. And it was also at a school of a current Bison, so it's not like this was a low level program - although it certainly has stepped up significantly since I was there.

I have to imagine this is a near-full-time gig for these guys at the top level. Is it the level of commitment of a low-level college team? Probably only for the true elite programs or basketball warehouses like IMG Academy.

Additionally, I'm pretty sure they get paid significantly above the 4-digit range.

Edited by pjm_hoops on 06-07-17 02:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison89 
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06-07-17 03:15 PM - Post#229900    
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Here is an article on High School Coaching Salaries. It would appear that the median salary as of 2011 was $28,470 which is MUCH higher than I expected. "According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, half of all coaches and scouts earned $28,470 a year or less." Personally, I would be shocked if our local high school coach earns more than $7,000 for the season.

http://work.chron.com/much-high-school-bask etball-...
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison137 
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06-07-17 07:10 PM - Post#229914    
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  • Bison89 Said:
Here is an article on High School Coaching Salaries. It would appear that the median salary as of 2011 was $28,470 which is MUCH higher than I expected. "According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, half of all coaches and scouts earned $28,470 a year or less." Personally, I would be shocked if our local high school coach earns more than $7,000 for the season.

http://work.chron.com/much-high-school-bask etball-...





No. That $28,470 median salary is an average for all coaches - high school, college, pro, etc. It goes on to say that only 20% of HS coaches earn more than $10,000 per year.




 
Bison89 
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06-07-17 07:24 PM - Post#229915    
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Ohhhh, that number seemed to be really high. Thanks for clarifying.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison137 
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06-07-17 08:14 PM - Post#229916    
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Here's a current list of Bison 2018 recruits and their updated offers:


- Balanc , Matthew 6-3 CG (MD) No offer - ;
- Battin , Riley 6-9 C (CA) BUCKNELL OFFER Apr-2017 ; Utah, UT State, Northwestern, Davidson, Santa Clara, San Fran, Portland, LU, AU, etc.
- Bryant , Gabe 6-9 PF/C (GA/SC) No offer - ; So. Alabama, TN Tech, App St., Mercer, GA Southern, Presb., etc.
- Carpenter , Cameryn 6-1 CG (MI) No offer - ;
- Davis , Ryan 6-9 PF/C (IL) BUCKNELL OFFER Apr-2017 ; Kent State, Toledo, W. Mich., Miami (OH), Wright, UAB, Vermont, Hofstra,UNH, Cal-Davis, Loyola
- Feinberg , Michael 6-4 SG (CA) BUCKNELL OFFER Dec-2016 ; Dartmouth
- Friberg , Drew 6-6 SF (PA) BUCKNELL OFFER Dec-2016 ; PSU, Navy, Manhattan, LU, UNH, Brown
- Funk , Andrew 6-3 SG (PA) BUCKNELL OFFER Mar-2017 ; Drexel, Delaware, Rider,Boston, Army, LC, Brown
- Holley , Tyler 6-4 SG/SF (MD) No offer - ;
- Lanford , Jake 6-8 C (SC) BUCKNELL OFFER May-2017 ; App S., Charleston, Furman, Wofford, Columbia, Mercer, No. FL., GA Southern, Winthrop,etc.
- Latimer , Miles 6-2 PG (VA) BUCKNELL OFFER May-2017 ; Towson, Stony Brook, Q'pac, Boston, Brown, LC, etc.
- Lewis , Savion 6-1 PG (NY) No offer - ; Stony Brook, Hofstra, Manhattan,etc.
- McClung , Mac 6-1 PG (VA) BUCKNELL OFFER Apr-2017 ; ODU, Duq, Rice, Kent State, Miami (OH), Marshall, Towson, W&M, Murray, ETSU, Oakland, Yale, Air Force, Q'pac, Wofford, Furman, Elon, etc.
- Millora-Brown , Quentin 6-9 PF/C (VA) BUCKNELL OFFER Oct-2016 ; Rice, Towson, JMU, Boston, Lehigh, Columbia, Mt.St. Mary
- Nesmith , Aaron 6-6 SF (SC) BUCKNELL OFFER May-2017 ; Charleston, Duq, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, W&M, E. Car., Wofford, Furman, Mercer, Loyola, etc.
- Njoku , Richard 6-7 PF (D.C.) BUCKNELL OFFER Jul-2016 ; Canisius, UNH, Bing, Brown, Boston
- Richards , Zeke 6-10 C (CA) BUCKNELL OFFER May-2017 ; DePaul, Cal-Davis, Cal-Northridge, Pepperdine, Hawaii
- Rotroff , Austin 6-9 C (OH) BUCKNELL OFFER May-2017 ; Richmond, Air Force, Rice, Ohio, Ball State, Toledo, Bowling Green, JMU, Cleve. St., Canisius, Furman, etc.
- Scott , Zach 6-4 PG (FL) BUCKNELL OFFER Apr-2017 ; VA Tech, KS State, Vandy, DePaul, South Fla, Wichita St., UCF, FGCU, NIU, South AL, etc.
- Toews , Kai 6-2 PG (Japan) BUCKNELL OFFER Oct-2016 ; Brown
- Tynen , Fletcher 6-5 SF (CA) BUCKNELL OFFER May-2017 ; Fordham, Northeastern, Hawaii, Boston U
- Young , Ryan 6-10 C (PA) BUCKNELL OFFER Apr-2017 ; St. Joes, Richmond, LaSalle, Duq., ODU, Towson, W&M, Delaware, Dexel, Yale, Penn, Stony Brook, Boston U, Navy, Loyola, LU, LC, Colgate, AU, Columbia, etc.




 
Bison54 
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06-08-17 06:30 AM - Post#229917    
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  • Bison137 Said:



No. That $28,470 median salary is an average for all coaches - high school, college, pro, etc. It goes on to say that only 20% of HS coaches earn more than $10,000 per year.



A median means that half earn more and half earn less. An average (or mean) is the total of all salaries divided by the number of coaches. They can be quite different.


 
Bison137 
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06-08-17 09:30 AM - Post#229922    
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Merriam-Webster's first definition of average = "a single value (such as a mean, mode, or median) that summarizes or represents the general significance of a set of unequal values."






 
baudolino 
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06-08-17 11:10 AM - Post#229931    
    In response to Bison137

That is correct. But "such as" does not mean "equal to". They happen to be identical if the distribution of the data is symmetrical. Average is about adding things up; median is about ordering things and figuring out the middle point.

If Bill Gates signs up on this board, our average wealth does go up by quite a bit; our median wealth will still be a pittance by comparison.

 
Bison137 
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06-08-17 01:26 PM - Post#229938    
    In response to baudolino

The first definition of average in Google: "a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean."

BTW, the College Board, when it comes to its standardized tests, recognizes three different averages, i.e. the mean, the median, and the mode.




 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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06-08-17 01:30 PM - Post#229939    
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Oh my, this discussion is a clear indicator that we are well into the offseason!


 
HuskyColonial 
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06-08-17 03:26 PM - Post#229946    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Hahahaha! Early commit announcements should be rolling in soon enough.

 
Doktore K 
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Reg: 11-11-09
06-09-17 07:20 AM - Post#229953    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Offseason indeed, at least for Posters like us. Coaches, however, are in full press mode with the AAU circuit in full swing this summer.

Re the topic at hand, I suggest a math book as a source for this interesting research on the mean--ing of mean.

I always thought the mean was like the middle post in a long picket fence. There you have it.

I got A's in Statistics at BU and still remember permutations and stuff like that. During the Jimmy V years at BU, I was the official stat man for the team and loved every minute of it!!



 
Bison54 
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06-09-17 07:34 AM - Post#229955    
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  • Doktore K Said:


I always thought the mean was like the middle post in a long picket fence. There you have it.




That's the median. Mean is the total of salaries divided by the number of people, also known as numeric average.

Government uses the terms interchangably, which can be misleading.


 
HuskyColonial 
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06-09-17 08:37 AM - Post#229958    
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Question about recruiting (excuse me for interrupting the team from salaries.com)

It would seem Bucknell still has an edge in the facilities department, correct? Sojka is 14 years old now but it still shines above MOST low major facilties correct?

 
Bison89 
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06-09-17 02:27 PM - Post#229975    
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Husky, in the PL, other than the Academies, I think that Sojka is the best facility. That being said, IMO, the Academies' stadiums are probably too big for the number of people who typically attend basketball games.

I have to qualify this by saying that I have not been to Boston U and Loyola. So, I cannot comment on their facilities.

'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison54 
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06-09-17 03:50 PM - Post#229977    
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I personally would rate Sojka far above Cristl


 
bison63 
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06-09-17 11:48 PM - Post#229988    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Oh my, this discussion is a clear indicator that we are well into the offseason!


As I was reading this thread I had the exact same though BRW, and then "bingo," no sooner had I thought it, then you said it.

 
Bison137 
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06-12-17 12:54 PM - Post#230002    
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- Latimer , Miles 6-2 PG (VA) BUCKNELL OFFER May-2017 ; Towson, Stony Brook, Q'pac, Boston, Brown, LC, etc.

- Njoku , Richard 6-7 PF (D.C.) BUCKNELL OFFER Jul-2016 ; Canisius, UNH, Bing, Brown, Boston.





Returning this thread to basketball, info on a couple of visits:

1. "’18 G Miles Latimer will take an unofficial visit to Lafayette June 18, and to Bucknell June 25"
https://twitter.com/AyalewAdam/status/874 227284206...

Latimer is a 6-2 PG from Fairfax VA. Plays for power Paul VI.


2. "2018 forward Richard Njoku was on a visit to Bucknell today, his coach tells me."
https://twitter.com/dougherty_jesse/statu s/8732873...

The visit was this past Friday. Njoku also visited Boston U and Brown recently.

- - - - -

The Bison camp is on June 23rd and 24th, and then almost all of July is a very important evaluation period, with a lot of AAU events. We will likely see more offers during that time - and maybe a commitment or two.




 
Bison137 
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06-14-17 06:37 PM - Post#230095    
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- Funk , Andrew 6-3 SG (PA) BUCKNELL OFFER . Mar-2017 ; Others: Drexel, Delaware, Rider,Boston, Army, LC, Loyola, Colgate, Navy, Yale, Penn, Brown



Andrew Funk, whose brother started last year for Army as a freshman, is taking an unofficial visit to Bucknell.

"2018 @JSWarriors guard Andrew Funk will take unofficial visits to UPenn on 6/16 & Bucknell on 6/26."

https://twitter.com/JKimElevate/status/87 511616798...



2. Also Blake Verbeek, a 6-10 center from Michigan (Grand Rapids area) also just visited. He apparently has no offers as of yet, but was ranked last year in the top ten in Michigan for his class (BankHoops). Dropped this year however.

"Unofficial visits this past week for 2018 Storm Blake Verbeek (6'10 Calvin Christian) included trips to Bucknell, Davidson & East Carolina"

https://twitter.com/grstormbb/status/8750 975301655...






 
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