KenZ
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08-23-17 07:20 PM - Post#232338
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Ellis has set three officials: Lehigh, Cornell and Columbia
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KenZ
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08-24-17 09:43 AM - Post#232355
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Toews has scheduled officials to Wofford and Delaware. also recently visited UNC Wilmington, unclear if this was an official, but apparently a good visit and they are serious contenders. i really expected us to be in the mix for him.
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KenZ
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08-24-17 10:06 AM - Post#232357
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continuing my barrage of less than good news
Catto has set officials to Wofford and Furman
maybe should point out that players can take up to five official visits, so these players can still add to their initially announced visits, but still never a positive not to be on the initial list.
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Bison137
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08-24-17 10:29 AM - Post#232360
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Toews has scheduled officials to Wofford and Delaware. also recently visited UNC Wilmington, unclear if this was an official, but apparently a good visit and they are serious contenders. i really expected us to be in the mix for him.
1. UNCW was official
2. Toews picked up two offers (Bucknell and Brown) late last fall and then didn't get another until late July - when he got four within a couple of weeks. I am hoping he may have made an unofficial during those eight months he was sitting on only the two offers.
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KenZ
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08-24-17 12:23 PM - Post#232363
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2. Toews picked up two offers (Bucknell and Brown) late last fall and then didn't get another until late July - when he got four within a couple of weeks. I am hoping he may have made an unofficial during those eight months he was sitting on only the two offers.
he did make an unofficial to Bucknell this summer
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Old Bison
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08-24-17 01:45 PM - Post#232367
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I'm confused about the "clean sweep" viewpoint. Not trying to be argumentative but are you implying we somehow approach too late with a "please don't sign up early" orientation. Not trying to be a wiseguy...it's just very unclear to me what "function" gets us to that sum/difference/product or quotient?
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BisonRoadWarrior
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08-24-17 02:19 PM - Post#232368
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I'm confused about the "clean sweep" viewpoint. Not trying to be argumentative but are you implying we somehow approach too late with a "please don't sign up early" orientation. Not trying to be a wiseguy...it's just very unclear to me what "function" gets us to that sum/difference/product or quotient?
I thought he just meant that all of the recruits in the Davis era have come in September or later.
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Bison137
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08-24-17 02:44 PM - Post#232370
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I'm confused about the "clean sweep" viewpoint. Not trying to be argumentative but are you implying we somehow approach too late with a "please don't sign up early" orientation. Not trying to be a wiseguy...it's just very unclear to me what "function" gets us to that sum/difference/product or quotient?
I thought he just meant that all of the recruits in the Davis era have come in September or later.
Yes, pretty sure that is what it means. May indicate a different recruiting approach than that of DP.
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Bison89
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08-24-17 02:49 PM - Post#232371
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As long as the quality of the student-athlete stays high, Coach Davis, please continue what you are doing! (Whatever it is . . .  )
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KenZ
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08-24-17 03:58 PM - Post#232372
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just to confirm and be clear:
my "clean sweep" comment was intended to say all signings in Davis era occurred later. i did speculate that his recruiting approach may contribute to that outcome, but there was no intent to imply anything negative in that.
there are definitely fewer offers and far fewer early offers than we were aware of in the Paulsen era, so that in itself reduces the likelihood of early commits. there may or may not be other differences that impact that, i don't know.
based on results to date, both coaches have had good recruiting results at Bucknell. as long as Coach follows what he feels is best approach for him and he has success, i have no grounds for complaints even if i suffer a bit of angst at times.
btw, i am a big fan of Coach Davis and just hope we can hang on to him for a while.
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Old Bison
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08-24-17 04:55 PM - Post#232375
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No worries - I understood the distinction you were raising (i.e., the timing issue). What I was questioning was how that could be based on a particular recruiting approach/style. In other words, I would look at that as a total uncontrollable. You make an offer and since you can't control the significant issue... the potential take-up (other than through strength of personality and salesmanship of the school, staff and the experience)I can't imagine how you could control the timing. Your answer in para II was consistent with the context of my question. I can't imagine however its an actual adopted strategy. Empirically, if you had a figure of offers at the same cut-off date of Flan/Dave P/Nathan over the years you would have a basis in assessing whether the difference is material and therefore does in fact possibly represent a more cautious approach. Not that a cautious approach is bad. Ultimately, there are a lot of talented kids and recruiting is an absolute competitive nightmare. Let's see how Sotos/Meeks/Newman fit in. I just hold John Griffin accountable for finding us a 7'2" big-boned athletic kid with skills.
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Bison89
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08-24-17 05:13 PM - Post#232377
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I just hold John Griffin accountable for finding us a 7'2" big-boned athletic kid with skills.
You are joking, right? I think that every school in the entire country is looking for a "7'2" big-boned athletic kid with skills."
Good luck with that one!
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Old Bison
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 08-24-17 05:31 PM - Post#232380
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No I'm not joking. That's Griffin's problem not mine
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BisonRoadWarrior
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08-24-17 06:01 PM - Post#232381
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btw, i am a big fan of Coach Davis and just hope we can hang on to him for a while.
I want us to hold on to him like Gonzaga has held on to Mark Few.
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bison63
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08-24-17 06:58 PM - Post#232384
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In coming here, he said this was his "dream" job. Of course he can always have new dreams...
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MrPhillie
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08-24-17 07:31 PM - Post#232385
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Just my opinion. Whether a dream job or not, if a coach has an opportunity to double, triple or quadruple his salary at a more challenging and respected school for his/her sport, then 98% of the time, that coach is moving.
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Bison89
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08-24-17 07:58 PM - Post#232386
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I am currently working in my dream job, but 4x my salary and . . .
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HuskyColonial
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08-25-17 07:15 AM - Post#232392
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I teach community college and love my job. I make 55k. Offer me 220k in a similar field. 😊
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MrPhillie
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08-25-17 07:27 AM - Post#232393
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I am a school counselor in my home district but if someone wanted to double or triple my salary I'm there!
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Old Bison
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08-25-17 08:55 AM - Post#232395
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Btw - of course I'm joking but we're not supposed to let Griffin know that...ssshhhh!
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