bradley
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12-30-16 04:01 PM - Post#217008
5-8 record but they have played a competitive schedule including Cal and Washington. They have several transfer players who had minutes when they were freshmen at Gonzaga, Univ of Minnesota and Army. Gonzaga transfer is 6'9" and shooting guard (former Army player) hits 49% of his 3 pointers. They have some height and appear to be a significantly better team than Hampton.
Cal Poly's Kenpom ranking is similar to Columbia and Cornell.
It will be interesting to see how Princeton C defend against the 6'9" center. Should be good practice for guarding Brodeur.
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Petrie
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12-30-16 07:23 PM - Post#217030
In response to bradley
The phrase "guarding Brodeur" makes me squeamish. Really hoping it's not 4 years of frustration and heartbreak. Although couldn't be much worse than what Penn's last big guy did to us.
As far Cal Poly is concerned, whatever it takes to best prepare for Penn - do that.
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bradley
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12-31-16 09:03 AM - Post#217074
In response to Petrie
13.5pt spread --- seems like a large spread. Vegas has been more confident in Tigers than the results y-t-d suggest.
Use Cal Poly to get ready for the opening 3 IL games at home -- Penn, Brown and Yale as you suggest. It was interesting watching Sydney Johnson coach against Penn yesterday. Strange career move going to Fairfield but hopes that it works out as he is still only 42 years old. Appears that Henderson has recruited well during his tenure although he still has not won a IL title like Johnson.
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1LotteryPick1969
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12-31-16 09:16 AM - Post#217075
In response to Petrie
The phrase "guarding Brodeur" makes me squeamish. Really hoping it's not 4 years of frustration and heartbreak. Although couldn't be much worse than what Penn's last big guy did to us.
Yes it could. Brodeur looks like a real matchup problem for us, even more than DNH. Who guards him??
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bradley
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12-31-16 09:38 AM - Post#217077
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
After watching the first five minutes of the second half (Fairfield/Penn), it is a tutorial of how not to guard Brodeur. I am pretty sure that Princeton will be able to take away his outside game with long arms and getting in his face unlike Fairfield. He will present challenges with his inside spins although long arms and having 15+ fouls to give will help. Miller and Brennan will provide the best defense with possibly Arirguzoh.
He is obviously a very good freshmen player and may well win RIL OY. Tigers will need to stop him and Howard and let anyone else try to beat them. Penn plays better defense than in the past although Fairfield had their fair share of wide open shots. Quakers will be a challenge but they were a challenge even when they were not very good.
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JadwinGeorge
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12-31-16 10:26 AM - Post#217083
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Johnson's "strange career move" prompted by an entirely different compensation opportunity. He is paid north of $490k. I am sure he felt frustrated as well that he would not be able to recruit in the same pool as Amaker, but he WOULD be expected to compete with him every year. In that he has been proven accurate. I think Henderson is 3-7 against Harvard.
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JadwinGeorge
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12-31-16 10:29 AM - Post#217084
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Scheduling Cal Poly right before the Ivy season is a great move. Cal Poly presents very much an Ivy-type challenge in terms of their competitive level. To get the max benefit from this match-up the Tigers need to beat the spread, especially at Jadwin.
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1LotteryPick1969
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12-31-16 10:37 AM - Post#217086
In response to bradley
Miller and Brennan will provide the best defense with possibly Arirguzoh.
I have seen Miles Stephens do a decent job against taller foes. He would of course need weak side help and aggressive double down on the entry pass.
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SRP
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12-31-16 01:51 PM - Post#217101
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
So far, PU has looked best to me when making opponents uncomfortable on the perimeter by guarding in the ball-handler's face or by trapping. They've given up a fair number of easy baskets by running away from the guy with the ball or otherwise being soft on switches. I would like to see a lot of deflections and steels and diving for loose balls as well as a return to the defensive rebounding we saw before the last game.
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SRP
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12-31-16 02:12 PM - Post#217105
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Looks like MH might have been reading the board. They've passed it inside to Miller early for a score. Of course, he then gets a very iffy block call where he is standing stationary and the dribbler runs into him.
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SRP
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12-31-16 02:22 PM - Post#217106
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All three bigs have received and inside assist now. It looks pretty, up 9 with 11:19 left in the half. Toth is hitting from outside for the Mustangs, but the Tigers have done a great job of running him off the three-poiint line, forcing him to make long twos.
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12-31-16 02:32 PM - Post#217108
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29-17 with 7:19 left in the half. Brennan having a terrific stretch with a block, an assist, some rebounds, and a basket.
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SRP
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12-31-16 02:40 PM - Post#217109
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Tigers killing the CPSLO on the boards, Cook and Weisz raining threes, up 14. Gladson getting worked over by the refs for some reason on invisible traveling calls, player control, and loose ball fouls,
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12-31-16 02:52 PM - Post#217111
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After both teams have a five-minute drought, Cannady with a buzzer-beating trey to give PU a 17-point halftime lead.
Terrific defense by the Tigers. Mustangs having to heave up no-hopers at the end of the shot clock and not getting any ORs. Their 5'-10" guard Fields and Toth are the only offensive options when they manage to create their own tough shots.
Brennan looking good, despite getting blocked on a dunk attempt by their 6'-8" guy. Ball movement is crisp and Cannady is showing PG instincts be limiting his shot attempts as others get hot.
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SRP
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12-31-16 03:10 PM - Post#217112
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Up 20 early in the second. Mustangs have scored on some good individual moves with high degree of difficulty, but the D is stifling for the Tigers, still forcing bad shots. Offensively, the inside game has opened up the perimeter for PU, with guys being left all alone for trey attempts.
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SRP
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12-31-16 03:18 PM - Post#217114
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Lead down to 15 after a 7-0 run for CPSLO based on Tiger turnovers and Mustang big guy Gordon showing his fifth-year senior ability against Gladson and Brennan inside.
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SRP
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12-31-16 03:30 PM - Post#217115
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Back to a 22-point lead with 7:00 left. Seeing multiple bigs on the floor at once, Stephens running the offense out of the high post, and lots of other interesting stuff. Cook is going nuts from three, 6-9.
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SRP
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12-31-16 03:36 PM - Post#217116
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Not letting up on D as the subs come in, while shooting lights out from three. Young and Cannady bombing from outside in a lineup with four PGs on the floor at once.
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SRP
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12-31-16 03:57 PM - Post#217117
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Excellent finish to the game, winning by 29 and leading wire to wire. Good tune-up for league play against a team that I think was made to look worse than it normally plays.
18-32 from two, 13-23 from three, with 23 assists and 14 ORs on 24 missed shots is going to look good anytime. Holding the opponent, which specializes in three-point shooting, to 3-19 from beyond the arc is great, especially with only allowing 11 ORs for them on all 35 of their missed shots. Contrary to my analysis pre-game, the Tigers accomplished their D without forcing many TOs at all--only 4 for the game.
If the bigs can stay involved against Penn, that will make life much easier. Brennan and Miller looked quite good today.
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Tiger69
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12-31-16 04:39 PM - Post#217119
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Good news to hear that Brennan is FINALLY coming around and that we were going inside more. I'm looking forward to the rebroadcast. I'm a little nervous when we are so sharp at threes at home as it seems to turn around on the road.
Penn was tough as hell last year. They sound much improved this year. We certainly cannot take anything for granted anymore.
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