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Username Post: 2018 recruiting        (Topic#19696)
mrjames 
Professor
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Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
02-21-18 04:25 PM - Post#248809    
    In response to PennFan10

Harvard's class is very strong, especially for a small class. Noah Kirkwood is a ridiculous talent - essentially a 6'7 point guard that is great in the open floor and plays strong defense. If he could shoot the three consistently, he'd be at a Duke/Kansas/Kentucky, but that part of his game is a work in progress. For now, he's a more physically developed and overall bigger Wes Saunders. I think Spencer Freedman is overhyped as a consensus 4-star, but should be a very solid and steady backup point guard for a couple years barring injury. You'll really see him shine as a junior/senior (when, by the way, he'll be 22 and 23).

Mason Forbes is a bit of a project in the post (and I'd have rather seen the team go with Trey Jemison, who was a bit more of a true 5), but he could be a good energy guy early in his career. Kale Catchings is interesting - super athletic slasher - but not a likely freshman breakout candidate.

All told, it's a Top 50 class nationally, possibly on the fringes of the Top 25 depending on how good you feel about Kirkwood.

Princeton's class is similar. Jaelin is a stud. Ethan Wright is a solid off guard, who could also make an impact right away. The rest are intriguing pieces that could be big contributors later in their careers.

Not a huge fan of what Penn has done with the combined 2017 and 2018 classes, though Wang, Williams, Scott as a class is *probably* the third best one in the Ivies. There's just such a big gap between what Harvard and Princeton were able to do in this down year and everyone else did.

 
FlaQuaker 
Junior
Posts: 203

Age: 34
Loc: NYC
Reg: 12-04-07
02-21-18 04:38 PM - Post#248811    
    In response to mrjames

Mike, how are things looking for 2019 throughout the league--any info on how that class is shaping up at this point in the process?

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
Masters Student
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Loc: Our Nation's Capital
Reg: 01-18-05
02-21-18 04:49 PM - Post#248814    
    In response to mrjames

Lot of pressure on Donahue this year. He's really got to up his recruiting game or this season's success will be seen as more of an aberration than anything.

I cannot imagine how frustrating recruiting must be, particularly with a shrinking (thank you, AI minimum) universe of eligible talent.

 
mrjames 
Professor
Posts: 5103

Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
02-21-18 05:20 PM - Post#248819    
    In response to FlaQuaker

Always hard to say until the test scores come in and the targets continue to progress (or not, as in the 2018 class) over the spring/summer circuits.

From what I've heard, 2019 should be a big year for Ivy-eligible bigs, if not for Ivy prospects for the class as a whole. At the very least, many Ivy teams have made sure to leave themselves a bunch of open slots for the 2019 class rather than taking extra players in the 2018 class, so that's usually a sign of belief in what's to come (could also be a further condemnation of what was available for 2018, though).

 
SomeGuy 
Postdoc
Posts: 4450

Reg: 11-22-04
02-21-18 07:35 PM - Post#248839    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

Well, I think he has some time. Obviously it would be great to capitalize on the soph class as fast as possible, but we still have them for 2 more years after this.

So I’m not too worried. Think of the Wang class as a stronger version of Dunphy’s Solomito class.

 
AsiaSunset 
Postdoc
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Reg: 11-21-04
02-22-18 10:23 AM - Post#248884    
    In response to SomeGuy

Speaking of injuries, Dave Zeitlin had a nice article on Dan Dwyer. He was operated on post Christmas for a rare form of diverticulitis and lost 30 pounds in the process. He's stayed very connected to the team and will be honored on senior night but is not expected to take a 5th year at Penn. He is on track to graduate in May.

He might take a 5th year at another school as a grad student but that's yet to be determined.

 
palestra38 
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Reg: 11-21-04
02-22-18 10:30 AM - Post#248885    
    In response to AsiaSunset

http://www.pennathletics.com/news/2018/2/21/mens-b ...

 
Silver Maple 
Postdoc
Posts: 3096

Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
02-22-18 10:30 AM - Post#248886    
    In response to AsiaSunset

Wouldn't it be nice if Dan could take that 5th year at Penn as a grad student?

I'd be interested in hearing the argument against such a policy.

 
SteveChop 
Masters Student
Posts: 644

Reg: 07-28-07
02-22-18 01:10 PM - Post#248896    
    In response to Silver Maple

I'm not sure that the NCAA (or the Ivy League) permits that. He could choose to double major at Penn (though it may be too late for that) and get a 5th year. Keep in mind that staying at Penn means paying $75,000; having another school pick him up may give him a free year. My hope is that he makes the best decision for HIS future and that he fully recovers from this unfortunate illness.

 
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