91Quake
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12-31-16 03:11 PM - Post#217113
Thought there was already a thread but I didn't see one so...
Middlesex Magic AAU team tweeted Cormac Ryan has over 30 offers and recently visited Penn, Yale, Stanford, and Villanova. He may be a long shot but at least we are getting some consideration.
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Penndemonium
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Reg: 11-29-04
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12-31-16 05:08 PM - Post#217123
In response to 91Quake
Wow. I loved his video. He would be one of the best all around players in a long time. I tried to think of Penn players he reminded me of, but in almost every case you would have needed to start the sentence with "a more athletic version of" or "a better shooting..."
Players that came to mind were Jerry Simon, Tim Begley, Jeff Schiffner, Ira Bowman, Andy Toole, Barry Pierce, Caleb Wood...
Undoubtedly would be a great prospect. We could win championships with him, our 2017 recruits, and Brodeur.
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Mike Porter
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Reg: 11-21-04
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01-01-17 06:18 PM - Post#217161
In response to Penndemonium
Happy New Year everyone!
Saw this article on Twitter whete 2018 target Isaiah Kelly (3 or 4 Star, top 200 type player with P5 interest) is still mentioning Penn among many options (HYP mentioned also):
http://www.phenomhoopreport.com/news_article/show/...
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Quakers03
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02-11-17 12:00 AM - Post#221309
In response to Mike Porter
Check out these two names and the season Smyrna is putting together in DE: Caleb Wood and Zubui Nwankwo.
My buddy has some friends who are very involved in the DE high school sports world so he shared some interesting updates. I understand that we don't want to tell the whole world who we're recruiting but would it hurt for some of the Penn insiders to share what they know once in a while? We usually get our info from out of the Penn world.
It sounds like Caleb, a great shooter and their big scorer from a farm in DE, has an offer from Temple already.
Zubui (pronounced Zubi) is 7'2 and came over from Nigeria and just moved here this season from Kentucky. He has played for 4 years and just soaks up rebounds, blocks and points around the basket. My buddy was at his game last night and said his free throw form leads one to believe that there's basketball talent in his raw skill and while a project, he could really turn into a player. I think his line last night was 11-15-7. He went up against a top rated recruit over winter break and the 6'10 kid didn't know what hit him.
His dad is a prof at Del St and very much wants his son to get a good education...The story below mentions his younger brother too but he went back to KY. They're the number one team in DE and will be favored to win state. Both apparently visited and Steve has been down there.
Caleb and Zubui -Smyrna and Clayton Sun Times
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Chip Bayers
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02-11-17 12:10 AM - Post#221311
In response to Quakers03
Sounds like Steve is looking for his next Jeff Foote.
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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02-11-17 12:44 AM - Post#221315
In response to Chip Bayers
Sounds like Steve is looking for his next Jeff Foote.
Or the next Caleb Wood.
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gopenngo
Masters Student
Posts: 487
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02-11-17 02:56 AM - Post#221320
In response to Quakers03
This Caleb is actually Matthews. (I auto-correct too, even when it's turned off.)
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Quakers03
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2018 recruiting 02-11-17 04:41 AM - Post#221321
In response to gopenngo
Him too. Knew that would happen at least once. Sorry about that. Wood needs the extra pub nowadays.
There's certainly video of these two out there if really interested.
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besnoah
Masters Student
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02-19-17 04:57 PM - Post#222564
In response to Quakers03
From earlier this week, another 2018 with a HM offer list:
Julius Kim
UPenn will be in today to see 2018 G Noah Locke of @McDMBasketball, per source.
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besnoah
Masters Student
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03-05-17 03:42 PM - Post#225050
In response to besnoah
TeamMeloBasketball
High on list for Melo 2018 G Noah Locke K.State, Marquette,Florida,Xavier, Providence,Butler St.Joe's,Stanford,Penn
Julius Kimâ€
2019 guard Jalen Rucker of Team Melo will take an unofficial visit to #UPenn tomorrow, per a source.
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Mike Porter
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03-05-17 05:46 PM - Post#225112
In response to besnoah
From the outside we definitely seem to be in with some very high level 2018 prospects. Its still early, but let's hope we can land a few!
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pennhoops
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2018 recruiting 04-17-17 11:10 AM - Post#228760
In response to Mike Porter
Per VC we've offered Siddiq Bey, two-star SG from Sidwell Friends (other offers incl. Temple and URI).
Edited by pennhoops on 04-17-17 11:11 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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20Penn14
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Re: 2018 recruiting 04-17-17 11:28 AM - Post#228761
In response to pennhoops
If he went to Sidwell Friends, that means Bey was a high school teammate of Jelani Williams.
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sparman
PhD Student
Posts: 1339
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Re: 2018 recruiting 04-17-17 01:02 PM - Post#228764
In response to 20Penn14
If he went to Sidwell Friends, that means Bey was a high school teammate of Jelani Williams.
He was - "Batman and Robin" Siddiq Bey - Washington Post
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yoyo
Senior
Posts: 354
Reg: 03-25-09
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04-20-17 10:33 AM - Post#228819
In response to sparman
Has Robby Carmody signed with the Quakers yet?
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besnoah
Masters Student
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04-20-17 05:55 PM - Post#228824
In response to yoyo
Not sure if this is just a Carmody joke at Sparman's expense, genuine curiosity or something else, but Robby Carmody is a consensus Top 100 player with Butler, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Michigan, etc. offers.
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besnoah
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2018 recruiting 04-20-17 07:21 PM - Post#228826
In response to besnoah
David Singleton, whom Penn had offered, committed to UCLA.
Chip Miller
Bishop Montgomery (CA) 2018 four-star guard David Singleton just committed to UCLA and head coach Steve Alford.
Edited by besnoah on 04-20-17 07:22 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Penn90
Masters Student
Posts: 570
Reg: 11-22-04
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04-20-17 10:13 PM - Post#228828
In response to besnoah
Is LaVar Ball okay with that?
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besnoah
Masters Student
Posts: 803
Reg: 12-14-05
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04-20-17 11:12 PM - Post#228832
In response to Penn90
Actually sort of an interesting question:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/var sity-t...
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nychoops
Junior
Posts: 239
Reg: 11-23-04
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05-03-17 11:31 AM - Post#229022
In response to besnoah
Name I've heard more than a few times recently that Penn has serious interest in is Riley Battin at of Oak Park HS
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yoyo
Senior
Posts: 354
Reg: 03-25-09
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05-03-17 12:44 PM - Post#229026
In response to nychoops
pretty impressive list of suitors.
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Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts: 3765
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Reg: 11-23-04
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05-03-17 01:00 PM - Post#229027
In response to yoyo
That it is. Is there any reason to believe that Mr. Battin has any interest in Penn?
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mrjames
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05-03-17 01:13 PM - Post#229028
In response to Silver Maple
I'd be mildly surprised if he didn't end up in the Ivy League.
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besnoah
Masters Student
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05-03-17 07:20 PM - Post#229034
In response to mrjames
Penn channeling George Clinton today vis a vis "the funk"
JerseyShoreWarriorsâ€
Univ of Penn offers Andrew Funk
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Penndemonium
PhD Student
Posts: 1878
Reg: 11-29-04
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05-04-17 03:29 AM - Post#229039
In response to besnoah
Wow. A lot of teams around the country could use Battin. He's got a lot of tools.
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rbg
Postdoc
Posts: 3044
Reg: 10-20-14
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05-04-17 08:55 AM - Post#229042
In response to Penndemonium
There's an interview with 4-Star junior Cormac Ryan, where he discusses the main teams in the running in his recruitment.
Unfortunately, Penn is not on that list. Yale, where his brother is a sophomore, is in that core group with Notre Dame, Michigan, Stanford, Villanova and Northwestern.
http://villanova.247sports.com/Article/Catching-Up...
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besnoah
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05-04-17 10:19 AM - Post#229044
In response to rbg
Penn also apparently offered Andrew Taylor, a guard from Kentucky, last night.
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/andrew-taylor
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besnoah
Masters Student
Posts: 803
Reg: 12-14-05
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05-07-17 02:26 PM - Post#229126
In response to besnoah
DeAnte' Mitchellâ€
Wichita Southeast (KS) SG Israel Barnes '18 received an offer from Penn
Only other offers appear to be Tulsa and Texas Tech.
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yoyo
Senior
Posts: 354
Reg: 03-25-09
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05-08-17 12:32 PM - Post#229138
In response to besnoah
https://twitter.com/Ilb_12?ref_src=twsrc% 5Egoogle%...
We can work on the name of the institution after he commits.
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PennFan10
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05-08-17 05:11 PM - Post#229150
In response to yoyo
His AAU team, Mokan Elite, is one of the top programs in the country. Based out KC
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besnoah
Masters Student
Posts: 803
Reg: 12-14-05
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05-08-17 10:00 PM - Post#229154
In response to PennFan10
Team Loaded NC
2018 6'5 SG Trey Wertz of Providence Day has received an offer from Penn
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Mike Porter
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05-10-17 09:11 AM - Post#229161
In response to besnoah
Don't know what are chances are, but interesting update form the St. Joes board on Matt Cotton:
Re: 2 recruits on campus...
Monday at 10:34 PM
JameericleOn54th wrote:
PH4L- Where does Matt Cottons recruitment stand?
SJU is still very much in the picture...
Matt is doing an engineering internship at UPenn right now...
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TheLine
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2018 recruiting 05-10-17 09:32 AM - Post#229162
In response to Mike Porter
It's too early to tell where this is heading but at least Coach Donahue is being aggressive with his recruiting. It's a step in the right direction.
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Jeff2sf
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Posts: 4466
Reg: 11-22-04
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05-10-17 10:39 AM - Post#229168
In response to TheLine
Until Jameer or Delonte Jr come to Penn, i shall never forgive SJU for Stachitas.
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TheLine
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05-10-17 12:33 PM - Post#229180
In response to Jeff2sf
LeBron's half brother is coming to Penn?
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rbg
Postdoc
Posts: 3044
Reg: 10-20-14
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05-22-17 03:00 PM - Post#229557
In response to TheLine
Per Verbal Commits, Penn made an offer to Ryan Young, a 2 Star 6'10" 210 lbs. PF from Stewartsville, NJ and attends Bethlehem Catholic.
He has following offers:
Ivy - Penn, Columbia, Yale
Patriot - Bucknell, Colgate, Lehigh, Lafayette, Navy, American, Boston Unviersity
A-10 - St. Joe's, La Salle, Richmond, Duquesne
CAA - Delaware, William & Mary, Towson, Elon, Drexel
Northeast - Mt. St. Mary's
America East - Stony Brook, New Hampshire
A link from last year
http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recru iti...
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10Q
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05-22-17 04:31 PM - Post#229558
In response to rbg
You can never have enough 2 Stars.
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mbaprof
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Reg: 12-24-11
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05-22-17 05:18 PM - Post#229560
In response to 10Q
See his self written profile below, looks like he grew from 6 7 to 6 10 and is an alter boy and wants to study business, we should have a good shot at him
My name is Ryan Young, I'm currently a 6'7" rising junior playing AAU basketball for the Jersey Shore Warriors. I attend Bethlehem Catholic HS in Bethlehem PA. I aim to continue playing at the collegiate level regardless of the division or location. I would like to attend a college that would excel in helping me pursue a career in business. I feel that I would be a strong asset to your team because of my basketball IQ, coach-able attitude, and 110% effort I bring to the court every time I play. I believe these attributes are what earned me the captain position of numerous teams I have been a part of in the past. I have been appointed captain of my basketball, football, volleyball, and lacrosse teams by my coaches and teammates. I believe that that says a lot about my character and what I bring to the team. Academically I have been in all honors classes since middle school and have a GPA of 3.2/4.0. I also participate in several groups at school like key club and peer listeners club, I volunteer regularly with my family locally, and I am an alter server at my church.
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palestra38
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05-22-17 05:41 PM - Post#229563
In response to mbaprof
3.2 GPA and Yale made him an offer?
Times really have changed.
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penn nation
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Posts: 21086
Reg: 12-02-04
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2018 recruiting 05-22-17 06:37 PM - Post#229564
In response to palestra38
Out in Bethlehem they're killing time
Filling out forms
Standing in line
PS Altar server; alter kocker
Edited by penn nation on 05-22-17 06:38 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Tiger69
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Posts: 2801
Reg: 11-23-04
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2018 recruiting 05-23-17 04:58 AM - Post#229566
In response to penn nation
Oh, he's ADORABLE. My Mom would have loved him. Member of Key Club and Peer Listeners, and he wants to be a businessman! What a dreamer!
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SteveChop
PhD Student
Posts: 1150
Reg: 07-28-07
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Re: 2018 recruiting 05-23-17 11:28 AM - Post#229572
In response to Tiger69
Well, at least that means he won't be going to Princeton's non-existent business school.
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palestra38
Professor
Posts: 32685
Reg: 11-21-04
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Re: 2018 recruiting 05-23-17 11:59 AM - Post#229573
In response to SteveChop
Since when does Yale have an undergraduate business major program? They are recruiting the kid.
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Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts: 3765
Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
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05-23-17 12:06 PM - Post#229574
In response to palestra38
They're probably pitching a degree in economics. It's not the same as a business degree, but he might go for it.
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Tiger69
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Posts: 2801
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Re: 2018 recruiting 05-23-17 09:30 PM - Post#229594
In response to SteveChop
True that. A lot of the biz courses that I took (at another institution of higher learning) were dumbed down liberal arts courses (Marketing, Organizational Behavior, Bus. Psych., etc.).
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penn nation
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Posts: 21086
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Re: 2018 recruiting 05-23-17 10:51 PM - Post#229596
In response to Tiger69
Interesting. My one Wharton course (Legal Studies) definitely benefited from the humanistic and liberal arts themes sprinkled throughout.
Not surprisingly, I was told later that it was the most "unWharton"ish course that existed.
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Silver Maple
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05-24-17 08:44 AM - Post#229606
In response to penn nation
With Murray Dolfman? I took that course too. He was a hoot. I can still recite the definition of consideration, so I guess I learned something.
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TheLine
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05-24-17 09:01 AM - Post#229608
In response to Silver Maple
So we all took the same course.
I took 2 other Wharton courses. One was heavy in mathematical modeling so easy to ace for an engineering student in a room full of Whartonites. Another was in public planning, which was very fascinating but of course no Whartonites took it.
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penn nation
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05-24-17 09:31 AM - Post#229609
In response to Silver Maple
With Bauer, although others took with Dolfman.
I loved the course--he used Socratic method in a large room and was an active participant. I really hated my Talmud courses in high school (2 forty minute periods for four years...still don't care for it after all of these years) but that training really came in handy for that course and I aced it.
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palestra38
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05-24-17 09:53 AM - Post#229615
In response to penn nation
My favorite Socratic method story is at Columbia, where the stern Hans Smit taught Federal Civil Procedure 1 (I had Ruth Bader Ginsberg for II---snore). He worked off a seating chart and called on people, probably checking off those who have answered and moving onto others. Before classes started, the seating chart was on the wall in the hallway and students were required to put their name on a particular seat. Well, not every seat was filled in that class and some joker wrote in "P. Ness" in one unfilled box.
You can guess what happened. Smit got around to that box and asked a question, calling out, "What do you think about that, Mr. Ness? Mr. Ness? Is there a P. Ness in the classroom?" Snickers all around...and the Teutonic glare glazed over and he chuckled and said, "OK, you think that's funny?" He then destroyed the class with rapid fire Socratic questions for the next half-hour, with Kingsfield-like putdowns after each student got the answer wrong.
Other than that, law school kinda sucked (except for playing noon games at center court at Levien--those were classic).
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Go Green
PhD Student
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05-24-17 10:29 AM - Post#229619
In response to palestra38
(I had Ruth Bader Ginsberg for II---snore)
Funny- Stephen Breyer taught Admin Law for a year at my law school and I was told he was boring as hell.
We didn't have the imagination that your classmates had. But granted, we only had one professor who was strictly Socratic, and other than letting you hang for several painful moments if you didn't know the answer, he really wasn't a dick.
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Streamers
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Loc: NW Philadelphia
Reg: 11-21-04
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05-24-17 01:30 PM - Post#229634
In response to TheLine
So we all took the same course.
I took 2 other Wharton courses. One was heavy in mathematical modeling so easy to ace for an engineering student in a room full of Whartonites. Another was in public planning, which was very fascinating but of course no Whartonites took it.
I took legal studies with Dolfman it as well. I transferred to Wharton after 2 years of Engineering and this did wonders for my GPA. Were your public planning courses in the Regional Science department? I took 2 of those and they were among my favorites at Penn.
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TheLine
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05-24-17 01:59 PM - Post#229637
In response to Streamers
Yes, it was the Regional Science department. I wish I could remember the professor's name. He did a lot of work with municipal governments on infrastructure projects and was on the road frequently.
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rbg
Postdoc
Posts: 3044
Reg: 10-20-14
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Re: 2018 recruiting 05-25-17 11:52 AM - Post#229653
In response to pennhoops
Looks like Saddiq Bey has a number of other offers.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/recruiting-ins...
Per Verbal Commits, his list now includes Pitt, Notre Dame, LaSalle, Davidson, Lehigh, NC State, Georgetown, Rutgers, Northwestern, Miami, George Washington, Elon, Temple, Rhode Island and Temple.
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pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts: 2470
Reg: 11-21-04
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06-05-17 10:59 AM - Post#229845
In response to rbg
Cormac Ryan to Stanford. Penn was not a finalist.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/04/march-madn ess-dreams-...
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20Penn14
Senior
Posts: 364
Reg: 02-26-12
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06-12-17 04:44 PM - Post#230005
In response to pennhoops
Julius Kim†@JKimElevate
2018 @NJ_RoadRunners forward Calistus Anyichie will visit Princeton on 6/13 & UPenn on 6/19.
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91Quake
PhD Student
Posts: 1124
Reg: 11-22-04
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06-14-17 09:56 PM - Post#230097
In response to 20Penn14
Andrew Funk scheduled to visit 6/16 per Julius Kim tweet.
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10Q
Professor
Posts: 23199
Loc: Suburban Philly
Reg: 11-21-04
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06-15-17 11:26 AM - Post#230112
In response to 91Quake
If he's a good defender, opponents will say "Get the Funk out of my face".
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echo
Freshman
Posts: 9
Reg: 11-16-12
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06-22-17 05:40 PM - Post#230295
In response to besnoah
Carmody has committed to Notre Dame
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20Penn14
Senior
Posts: 364
Reg: 02-26-12
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06-24-17 07:53 PM - Post#230343
In response to echo
Julius Kim†@JKimElevate
Josh Alexander, a 2018 forward playing with @teamrionational, will take unofficial visits to Temple on 6/24 & UPenn on 6/25.
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besnoah
Masters Student
Posts: 803
Reg: 12-14-05
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06-25-17 11:28 PM - Post#230353
In response to 20Penn14
Prep Hoops Michigan
2018 6'6 Divine Child/Reach Legends SF Quinn Blair picks up an offer from Penn. His 8th D1 offer. Top 15 player in state. Congrats!
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1979Quakers
Freshman
Posts: 81
Age: 58
Reg: 06-06-17
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07-07-17 04:58 PM - Post#230597
In response to besnoah
I don't know if this has been posted but, according to Verbal Commits, SG Dwayne Cohill has removed the Quakers from consideration.
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besnoah
Masters Student
Posts: 803
Reg: 12-14-05
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07-12-17 09:51 AM - Post#230798
In response to 1979Quakers
The always excellent Josh Verlin from COBL had some interesting thoughts on Penn's (and other Philly schools') roster and recruiting needs in 2018.
http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...
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yoyo
Senior
Posts: 354
Reg: 03-25-09
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07-12-17 02:26 PM - Post#230814
In response to besnoah
Matt Cotton would be a great get
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Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts: 3765
Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
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07-12-17 04:44 PM - Post#230833
In response to yoyo
I can't say I agree that Penn doesn't need much from the upcoming recruiting class. And I certainly hope that's not the attitude the coaching staff is taking.
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palestra38
Professor
Posts: 32685
Reg: 11-21-04
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07-12-17 04:57 PM - Post#230834
In response to Silver Maple
I came away from that thinking we were in better shape than Villanova.
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Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts: 3765
Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
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07-12-17 05:36 PM - Post#230841
In response to palestra38
Is it my imagination, or did Matt Cotton's rating just go from 2 to 4 stars.
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penn nation
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Posts: 21086
Reg: 12-02-04
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07-12-17 05:48 PM - Post#230843
In response to Silver Maple
Historically, the price of Cotton has risen during times of internal conflict.
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gopenngo
Masters Student
Posts: 487
Reg: 01-30-06
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07-12-17 10:10 PM - Post#230851
In response to penn nation
I don't think the price of Cotton Mathers.
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gopenngo
Masters Student
Posts: 487
Reg: 01-30-06
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07-12-17 10:10 PM - Post#230852
In response to gopenngo
Sorry.
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
PhD Student
Posts: 1169
Loc: Our Nation's Capital
Reg: 01-18-05
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07-12-17 10:46 PM - Post#230854
In response to gopenngo
Don't apologize. That was magnificent.
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Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts: 3765
Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
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07-12-17 10:53 PM - Post#230855
In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
You people should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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20Penn14
Senior
Posts: 364
Reg: 02-26-12
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07-15-17 12:05 PM - Post#230932
In response to Silver Maple
According to COBL, Calistus Anyichie is receiving interest from Penn
http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...
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TheLine
Professor
Posts: 5597
Age: 60
Reg: 07-07-09
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07-17-17 08:32 PM - Post#230983
In response to 20Penn14
Happy 5th anniversary to COBL.
Josh, COBL continues to be my #1 go-to college hoops site. The world has too many lawyers and not enough people who do what you do.
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The Pine
Freshman
Posts: 61
Reg: 02-22-15
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07-18-17 12:25 AM - Post#230985
In response to TheLine
Does anyone know the current status of Jelsni Williams? Didn't he have an ACL tear. Or am I wrong?
Tx
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PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts: 3580
Reg: 02-15-15
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07-18-17 12:58 AM - Post#230986
In response to The Pine
He had an ACL tear and has been training during his recovery. From what I know he is wearing a brace and working out regularly. He won't be cleared to play until he can work out without the brace. Don't know when that will be but should be before official practices begin. I have heard he looks very good, albeit without having played in any of the pickup games.
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TheLine
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07-18-17 08:51 AM - Post#230989
In response to PennFan10
Jelani had a training video up about 2 weeks after his injury. Seems to be highly motivated.
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pennhoops
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07-19-17 01:42 PM - Post#231056
In response to TheLine
Justin Byerlyâ€
@JustinByerly
Penn has offered Kris Wooten from Stackhouse Elite.
2*. Other offer is Fordham.
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pennhoops
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07-19-17 02:33 PM - Post#231064
In response to pennhoops
Another:
2018 St. Maria Goretti (MD) G Amir Harris has received an offer from Penn. @Harris5Amir http://verbalcommits.com/players/amir-harris …
6-5 pg (interesting). 2*, offers from lots of east coast low to mids.
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Jeff2sf
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07-19-17 04:19 PM - Post#231076
In response to pennhoops
these sound a little less... "choosy".. then maybe i thought we were being after JMVERLIN's article.
but whatever, it's hot out.
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besnoah
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07-19-17 11:29 PM - Post#231098
In response to Jeff2sf
Penn mentioned in this bit on Noah Kirkwood:
"Kirkwood is currently an Ivy League priority as Harvard, Yale and Penn would love to find a way to add the talented Canadian. However, the Brookwood Elite product spoke highly of Notre Dame, Texas and Vanderbilt, too, as many others are expected to enter the picture for the versatile forward."
https://basketballrecruit ing.rivals.com/news/stock...
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mrjames
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07-20-17 10:23 AM - Post#231103
In response to besnoah
The scouting services seem to be catching up now, but he's deserved to be a Top 100 kid info the 2017/2018 class for a long time now. If he demonstrated a consistent 3-point shot, he'd be a five-star kid going to Duke or something, but as it stands, he's a dead ringer for a more physically imposing Wesley Saunders. Same playmaking skills for others while being almost impossible to keep from getting to where he wants to go in the lane.
There have been some really good, ready-for-primetime freshmen to come into the league recently, but he is more ready than basically all of them.
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nychoops
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07-20-17 10:45 AM - Post#231107
In response to mrjames
From what I heard this week Harvard perhaps has a shot but I would think ND, Wisco, UVA
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20Penn14
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07-22-17 11:03 AM - Post#231172
In response to nychoops
From COBL:
http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...
Mezie Offurum is in contact with Penn
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Mike Porter
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07-22-17 06:26 PM - Post#231178
In response to 20Penn14
Per St Joe's board, Yale has offered Matt Cotton now: http://www.scout.com/college/saint-josephs /forums/...
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rbg
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07-24-17 09:09 PM - Post#231215
In response to Mike Porter
Princeton just received a 2018 commitment from PG Jaelin Llewellyn (4 Stars). He had many offers including Northwestern, Minnesota, Purdue, Virginia, Florida, Creighton, Providence, URI, Cincinnati, Stanford, and Harvard.
Looking at the 2018 commits throughout the league:
Jaelin Llewellyn PG (4 Stars) - Princeton
Spencer Freeman PG (4 Stars) - Harvard
Taurus Samuels PG (3 Stars) - Dartmouth
Eze Dike-Nwagbara PG (2 Stars) - Yale
David Mitchell SG (2 Stars) - Brown
With the improvement in league-wide recruiting, it would be good if Penn could seal the deal with one of the 11 players they have given offers.
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pennhoops
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07-26-17 12:25 PM - Post#231313
In response to rbg
From VC:
Rasir Bolton committed to Penn State
Penn offered Quinn Blair, 2* SF from Detroit, mostly mid, lowmid offers.
There are still a couple of top-100 types on the list (hey, Matt Cotton) and a few names that have yet to emerge but the trend so far this summer, at least in terms of the offers known publicly, seems to be down.
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section110
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07-26-17 04:42 PM - Post#231326
In response to pennhoops
With 22 on the roster this year & 16 of them back next year, we need 1 or 2 quality recruits, not 4 to 6 in the class.
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Glenflesk
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07-26-17 05:21 PM - Post#231328
In response to section110
Unless the 4-6 are better than 10 of the ones we already have.
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Silver Maple
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07-26-17 06:06 PM - Post#231330
In response to section110
With 22 on the roster this year & 16 of them back next year, we need 1 or 2 quality recruits, not 4 to 6 in the class.
If the staff is able to nail down some three or four star recruits, I agree with that statement. However, if they're only able to bring in two star recruits, they might need 4-6 of them in order to yield 1-2 impact players.
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TheLine
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07-26-17 06:32 PM - Post#231331
In response to Silver Maple
This is the first time in I don't know how long when Penn's roster is stocked with legitimately useful players vs. filler material. We obviously don't know enough about the incoming Freshmen or even a couple of the Sophs-to-be but you can make a reasonable argument that pretty much all of the returnees have the potential of making an impact (not saying that all ultimately will). That's progress though we're still not where we need to be and there's room for recruiting impact players.
There are 5 seniors on the team. There's definitely room for a few talented recruits.
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07-26-17 11:32 PM - Post#231335
In response to TheLine
While the team is more solid, it is partly because of the depths the team is coming from. I think a team needs two all-league type of players to be a true contender.
AJ Brodeur is the only Penn player that may fit that bill right now. I like Betley, Goodman, and Woods a lot, but I don't think they are all-Ivy dominant players. I'm hoping that some of the Frosh will provide this.
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gopenngo
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07-26-17 11:45 PM - Post#231336
In response to Penndemonium
You're right. We don't have a go-to, end-of-game player (like Rosen). If we're hoping for one of the frosh to step up, we're far away from the Promised Land.
I mean, this past season SD was using Foreman in the Rosen role. This team is still full of mis-matched parts.
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pennhoops
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2018 recruiting 07-27-17 08:38 AM - Post#231342
In response to section110
With 22 on the roster this year & 16 of them back next year, we need 1 or 2 quality recruits, not 4 to 6 in the class.
This class will undoubtedly be smaller than last but there is still a rising quality of recruit league-wide that we need to keep up with. Whether or not we do that is still in question.
Edited by pennhoops on 07-27-17 08:38 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Jeff2sf
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07-28-17 11:25 AM - Post#231375
In response to pennhoops
everything pennhoops says is true. but i'm less worried than last year. he brought in some legit talents, he did it a little later than i thought he would. i get it, not only does he have to do it each year, he has to raise his game further than last year. on a consistent basis.
I'm just not as freaked out about it. Now, if Betley isn't as good as I thought he could be this year or if none of the freshmen start by season end, then i'll be pretty worried regardless of the hype/lack thereof for 2018 class.
PLEASE, GOD, LET JARROD AND AJ START IN THE FRONTCOURT FOR THREE YEARS!
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mrjames
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07-28-17 05:22 PM - Post#231392
In response to Jeff2sf
As I said last year, I think it will be more difficult for Penn in 2018 and beyond as the AI floor is now at 183, trimming a decent portion of the pool that used to exist where Penn could take multiple kids and HYP could take, at most, one. I'm sure the coaching staff will adjust, but it's worth watching.
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Penndemonium
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07-29-17 01:10 AM - Post#231397
In response to mrjames
mrjames, can you refresh me on a few things regarding the AI...
Was the AI floor raised for the whole league? Was it raised proportionately for the different schools or more for some than others?
Also, who makes the decision? Is it 1 vote per school and majority wins?
I am not asking to immediately complain about the answers. I was just wondering.
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mrjames
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07-29-17 07:53 AM - Post#231398
In response to Penndemonium
Whole league across the board from 178 to 183. I have no clue how it affects the football banding...
I believe it's a presidents decision, but I don't know the ins and outs of that piece of it. I just hear about it happening, not the how.
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pennhoops
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07-29-17 09:35 AM - Post#231399
In response to mrjames
As I said last year, I think it will be more difficult for Penn in 2018 and beyond as the AI floor is now at 183, trimming a decent portion of the pool that used to exist where Penn could take multiple kids and HYP could take, at most, one. I'm sure the coaching staff will adjust, but it's worth watching.
But HYP have already demonstrated there are 3+* kids out there comfortably above the floor. Penn did need to dip a little bit in the last two seasons but it isn't as though it's 178 or bust.
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2018 recruiting 07-29-17 12:33 PM - Post#231401
In response to pennhoops
To quantify this (approximately) as I understand it. Moving the AI floor from 178 to 183 means a given recruit needs 1 more point on the ACT than previously OR about .25 higher on their GPA (on a 4pt scale).
It's probably a lot easier to move an ACT score 1 pt higher than it is to move your GPA up .25 (e.g. from 3.1 to 3.3). For SA's near the floor that's more challenging but not impossible.
Edited by PennFan10 on 07-29-17 12:34 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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