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Username Post: 2018 recruiting        (Topic#19696)
Cvonvorys 
PhD Student
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Loc: Princeton, New Jersey
Reg: 10-11-06
10-06-17 10:38 AM - Post#233548    
    In response to Jeff2sf

FWIW, this from ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basket ball/recr...

 
Jeff2sf 
Postdoc
Posts: 3437

Reg: 11-22-04
10-06-17 11:12 AM - Post#233550    
    In response to Cvonvorys

yeah fine. i'm sure he's good. just wasn't excited.

MATT COTTON OR GTFO.

 
AsiaSunset 
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Reg: 11-21-04
10-06-17 11:37 AM - Post#233551    
    In response to Jeff2sf

Jeff- I think you are correct in your comments, although I'd describe him as having average athleticism. One thing we know is that above average athleticism doesn't necessarily correlate to success in our league.

I mean no one would ever see players like Hans Brase pick a quarter off the top of the backboard. And guys like Sherard and Sears wouldn't qualify either.

I think it's paramount in Donahue's scheme that one has the ability to put the ball in the basket. If we have a 4 who can shoot 40%+ and run the floor and rebound a bit, we have a pretty good mid major, ivy league contributor. The problem we struggle with is we don't have guys that consistently make the open shots our offense is designed to generate, nor have we had the kind of guards who can consistently beat their man off the dribble and dish the ball to guys who then knock down the open 3 pointer. I'm guessing a commitment from a player with Wang's skill set would be welcomed and that he would fit in quite nicely with our current mix.

 
Jeff2sf 
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Reg: 11-22-04
10-06-17 11:39 AM - Post#233552    
    In response to AsiaSunset

yup, i'm sure you're right. just have had more entertaining uses of 2:15 of youtube.

 
Okoro Dude 
Junior
Posts: 265

Loc: Glen Mills, PA
Reg: 11-24-04
10-06-17 12:46 PM - Post#233554    
    In response to DJ Jazzy Jeff

Hopefully he was there Sunday to see the Sixers playing their Blue/White scrimmage at the Palestra. Good chance to see the Palestra full. I saw most of the team and coaches sitting in 116, but didn't notice if any of the people sitting around them were recruits.

 
pennhoops 
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Reg: 11-21-04
10-06-17 12:47 PM - Post#233555    
    In response to Jeff2sf

I'd be guardedly optimistic re Wang. If he can rate 3* and get an HM offer (A&M) playing a decidedly supporting part for Mater Dei then there's got to be some talent there. I'd imagine he'll have a bigger part to play this year and against some high quality competition. If he shows something, he could be a good one.

Put another way, Cotton and Wang are about as good as we can hope for (and need) in a class right now.

 
Mike Porter 
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Mike Porter
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Reg: 11-21-04
10-06-17 09:23 PM - Post#233567    
    In response to pennhoops

I agree Wang doesn't look like he will win any jumping contests, but really like the form on his shot, and it seems that he is performing well on a really good team so far this year. I'd be pumped to have him commit.
Looks like ESPN and 247 do have him as 3* recruits also, so sounds promising and seems like a fit for Donahue's offense.

Also it looks like Matt Cotton has his Yale visit the weekend after his Penn visit and is visiting Harvard this weekend per Rivals.

 
mrjames 
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Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
10-06-17 10:03 PM - Post#233568    
    In response to Mike Porter

Hmm... I don't think that visiting info is right.

 
Mike Porter 
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Mike Porter
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Reg: 11-21-04
2018 recruiting
10-06-17 10:22 PM - Post#233569    
    In response to mrjames

I certainly hope Rivals isn't that accurate since they also have interest as high for Yale and Harvard but only Med for Penn (even though they do have visit date). Looks like it says yesterday was visit actually.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/201 8/matthu...

Wouldn't surprise me if it was off.

 
mrjames 
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Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
10-09-17 10:58 AM - Post#233601    
    In response to Mike Porter

What does GTFO mean?

 
Jeff2sf 
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Posts: 3437

Reg: 11-22-04
10-09-17 11:12 AM - Post#233603    
    In response to mrjames

it was a joke. get the f out.

"matt cotton or bust".

 
PennFan10 
PhD Student
Posts: 1040

Reg: 02-15-15
10-09-17 11:58 AM - Post#233608    
    In response to Jeff2sf

MCOB

Yes indeed!

 
penn nation 
Professor
Posts: 9427

Reg: 12-02-04
10-09-17 12:26 PM - Post#233611    
    In response to PennFan10

Serenity now.

 
1979Quakers 
Freshman
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Age: 52
Reg: 06-06-17
10-09-17 12:36 PM - Post#233612    
    In response to penn nation

Insanity later.

 
Silver Maple 
Postdoc
Posts: 2869

Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
10-09-17 12:36 PM - Post#233613    
    In response to penn nation

God-- I wish I could be optimistic here. I'm trying to breathe through my eyelids.

 
palestra38 
Professor
Posts: 16018

Reg: 11-21-04
10-09-17 02:07 PM - Post#233619    
    In response to Silver Maple

It's pretty funny how we are coming off the 2 best recruiting years since Dunphy and everyone is choking on the issue of next year's recruits. We have a chance to be pretty good this year. And no one is saying anything other than going after me for really liking Antonio Woods.

You guys have lost all perspective---that's a losing mentality. Time to look forward to what is right before us.

 
Jeff2sf 
Postdoc
Posts: 3437

Reg: 11-22-04
10-09-17 02:14 PM - Post#233620    
    In response to palestra38

first off, i'm not calling Simmons/JWill/Scott a successful recruiting class until I see them succeed. I'm not falling for the Glen Miller "our class is greater than 10 Super Bowls" thing again.

second, it doesn't matter that we have the "best recruiting years since Dunphy". That's nearly as meaningless a time period as trying to compare to the Final Four years. It's a completely different era. Doing good isn't good enough. If we keep on our current trajectory we are at best a 3rd place team over the next half decade.

I HOPE Steve Donahue isn't as complacent as you.

 
palestra38 
Professor
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Reg: 11-21-04
10-09-17 02:17 PM - Post#233621    
    In response to Jeff2sf

I'm calling you out on this one Jeff. If anyone on this entire board judges recruits long before they play a game, it is you. We have actual talent here right now that by the end of last year, was competitive with the best teams in the league--beat Harvard and were it not for a missed FT, we had Princeton as well.

I only judge what I can see. And what I see is pretty good. I am anything but complacent. But I am optimistic.

 
Jeff2sf 
Postdoc
Posts: 3437

Reg: 11-22-04
10-09-17 02:40 PM - Post#233622    
    In response to palestra38

i mean whatever bro. i'm judging the recruiting class, yes, but I allow for people to play above their grade (as Betley did).

But you're narrow, luddit-ian, goal post moving buttisn't getting away with the idea that we "were competitive".

We're so far behind the top 3 it hurts. The fact that we now have a tourney, which btw, is at home and allows for randomness to occur does not mean we're on the come. no statistic will agree with you on this. You do realize mrjames reads this board right?

 
palestra38 
Professor
Posts: 16018

Reg: 11-21-04
10-09-17 02:44 PM - Post#233623    
    In response to Jeff2sf

What were the stats for the last 8 games, when we had integrated last year's freshmen (notwithstanding the seasonal overuse of AJ by that point)?


I'm not going pure Luddite here---it is based on the actual level of play in the last quarter of the season, combined with the return of a very good player (I know we disagree, but you'll be wrong on this) in Woods and recruiting in the areas we really need some help. I think we crack the top 3---one of those 3 will falter (probably Princeton).

 
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