Jeff2sf
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10-09-17 05:12 PM - Post#233654
In response to AsiaSunset
Matt Cotton set to announce decision at 6 today per the twitters.
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penn nation
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10-09-17 05:34 PM - Post#233656
In response to Jeff2sf
Gonna take his talents to [insert joke here]....
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20Penn14
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10-09-17 06:05 PM - Post#233657
In response to penn nation
He is going to Yale
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Penndemonium
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10-09-17 06:45 PM - Post#233660
In response to 20Penn14
Ack. Is this confirmed?
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mrjames
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10-09-17 06:49 PM - Post#233661
In response to Penndemonium
Yeah, announced shortly after 6.
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Penndemonium
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10-09-17 06:53 PM - Post#233662
In response to mrjames
Shoot. I thought he would be the perfect bridge in our recruiting classes to raise the team a notch. Per the observations of others, one very strong recruit helps solidify us in the top 4 and makes us a threat among the top 2-3.
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Mike Porter
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2018 recruiting 10-09-17 07:45 PM - Post#233664
In response to Penndemonium
So, not a great look for our recruiting efforts or ability to close against the top 3 Ivy teams... we literally had the home court advantage (his parents live in SJ), and still couldn't make it happen.
With the litany of other misses, there is Mike Wang who I think would be a nice pickup and then...
Seriously curious if anyone knows of any other quality kids on our radar for 2018? As I said above, in today's Ivy you can't whiff on a class and expect to succeed.
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PennFan10
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10-09-17 08:19 PM - Post#233667
In response to Mike Porter
I am sure there are gap year kids at the NMH, New Hampton Brewster league that are available.
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20Penn14
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Re: 2018 recruiting 10-09-17 08:22 PM - Post#233668
In response to Mike Porter
The other players still listed on VC are:
Kris Wooten 6'0 180 PG
Trey Wertz 6'5 180 SG 3* ESPN
Akuwovo 'Savior' Ogeneyole 6'9 SF
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Jeff2sf
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10-09-17 09:01 PM - Post#233669
In response to 20Penn14
Mike Wang or GTFO
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Mike Porter
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10-09-17 09:35 PM - Post#233670
In response to Jeff2sf
Trey Wertz looks like a great prospect, but based on online information he doesn't seem to be considering Penn at this point.
Not much about Kris Wooten online, but we offered in July so seems relatively recent (and decent offers in Fordham and BU).
Saviour Akuwovo looks like an interesting prospect, but we offered him almost a year and a half ago, so have no idea where that really stands. Also very little about him online.
Then there is Mike Wang who I would be happy to see commit to Penn.
Still... not a lot of options left that are public.
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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10-09-17 10:08 PM - Post#233671
In response to Mike Porter
Well phooey.
Nice to see all the Yale fans overjoyed at this news over on their board. What the hell is James Jones selling over there? It's not like the facilities are all that (though Payne Whitney does have its quirky charms). I'm not aware of a super-involved fan base or noisy alums with a deep commitment to the basketball team. Is it just the brand advantage? Financial aid advantage? J.J.'s sparkling personality?
A few weeks ago Mike was telling us that he "wasn't sure who we were competing against" for Mr. Cotton's services. Nice to see Yale swoop in and grab him.
This really stinks.
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besnoah
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10-09-17 10:16 PM - Post#233672
In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Josh re: Penn's remaining 2018 effort
Josh Verlinâ€
It's not the type of class where they need kids, with 2016/17 being so strong. So they went after a few top kids, but ultimately focused on '19.
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Mike Porter
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10-10-17 12:35 AM - Post#233673
In response to Mike Porter
Trey Wertz looks like a great prospect, but based on online information he doesn't seem to be considering Penn at this point
Well, shows what I know from reading into stuff online.
Per @JustinByerly
2018 guard Trey Wertz of Team Loaded NC/Providence Day will take an official visit to Penn this weekend.
Based on most recent offers, Trey Wertz looks like a great prospect. I don't know what type of chance we have, but good job by coaches to get him to visit.
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91Quake
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10-10-17 07:50 AM - Post#233675
In response to Mike Porter
He took an official to Temple two weekends ago and was on an official to Santa Clara last weekend.
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mrjames
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10-10-17 08:13 AM - Post#233676
In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Don't read into it that Yale wasn't in there and suddenly swooped in. Yale was there. A lot was unclear at that time (Harvard hadn't landed its targets yet, for instance, so whether it would be in the running wasn't known), but it became clear pretty quickly that it was Penn-Yale and that Yale was the leader. There was a bit of time last week where that seemed to vacillate, but yesterday there wasn't a lot of mystery about who he'd choose.
Trey's more highly regarded than Cotton, so landing him would be a nice response. Don't see it happening, though.
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rbg
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10-10-17 09:07 AM - Post#233678
In response to mrjames
Cotton's choice should not be much of a surprise - back on 9/20, Mike posted that Kelly and Cotton would both end up at Yale.
While I have no ties to the Elis, I could certainly understand why an highly rated student-athlete would want to join its team. Top 5 university, very good coach, 2 championships in the last 3 years, 17 years in the upper division of the IL, and 8 players presently in the pros are some of the reasons why a clear headed young man would choose to go to Yale. While Penn certainly has lots to offer, can it, at this time, match Yale's recent results?
It would be great if Wertz ended up at Penn, however, I am trying to keep lower expectations. FWIW, his father, who covers local basketball for the Charlotte Observer, re-tweeted an announcement that SMU would be coming to Providence Day to watch his son. He did not re-tweet the items regarding his son's upcoming visit to Penn.
I certainly appreciate Josh's statement about '18 recruiting. On the other hand, Penn gave out a rather large number of offers (at least 15, I believe) for a class they may not have had much interest. Also, they lost out to conference rivals for several of the top prospects that they may have targeted.
While Harvard, Princeton and Yale continue to distance themselves from the other 5 schools with on-court performance, they seem to be doing the same on the recruiting trail. Assuming SD has taken a more passive approach to the class of '18, the pressure will really be on for the class of '19.
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Jeff2sf
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10-10-17 11:17 AM - Post#233694
In response to nychoops
you know what?
This S U C K S.
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besnoah
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2018 recruiting 10-10-17 04:45 PM - Post#233731
In response to Jeff2sf
To be clear, I think Josh's statement is valuable from an informational standpoint and extremely disappointing from the standpoint of Penn's ability to execute in recruiting thus far.
Edited by besnoah on 10-10-17 04:45 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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SomeGuy
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10-10-17 06:12 PM - Post#233746
In response to palestra38
For the record, I think we have a good chance to close the gap to the top 3 this year. I am optimistic. I think we've got two very good players who complement each other in AJ and Betley. Just need another to join them. My quibble with you was just with the liklihood that Woods is that guy -- I think it is more likely to end up being one of the freshmen. Sorry if we got kind of negative in discussing that.
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