mrjames
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10-11-17 09:59 PM - Post#233830
In response to SomeGuy
Mike Wang to Penn.
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Silver Maple
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10-11-17 11:08 PM - Post#233831
In response to mrjames
So, would we call this good-ish news?
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Mike Porter
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2018 recruiting 10-12-17 02:16 AM - Post#233833
In response to Silver Maple
I'd be curious to hear what Mike James and others closer to it think. Particularly what the perception of Wang is versus other 2018 bigs that have committed.
Without any inside info I'm personallly excited for it. Wang is a 3 star recruit per 247 and ESPN (he was actually rated higher overall than Matt Cotton by both). He plays at a top school with big time players in practice everyday, and he is 6'9" or 6'10" and shoots 3s which is a good fit for our offense. He has a nice looking shot with a seemingly quick release. He also seems to be playing well starting his senior season even sharing the ball with highly rated kids.
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TheLine
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10-12-17 08:23 AM - Post#233835
In response to Mike Porter
I don't know much about Wang but based on the few clips and writeups I've seen I think he's a good fit for Donahue's offense. His ability on defense is likely to determine what his ceiling is. I don't know one way or the other about that.
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Jeff2sf
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10-12-17 09:27 AM - Post#233840
In response to TheLine
Seriously glad we got Wang.
Now excited to move on the really fun part of recruiting where Penn's coach signs someone in February and is shocked that they were able to find such a good recruit under the radar while we all nod knowingly.
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TheLine
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10-12-17 10:19 AM - Post#233843
In response to Jeff2sf
While Miller and Allen played that game on occasion (remember that kid Gallagher recruited from a trip to Australia?), Donahue hasn't.
BTW Wang has been a PF because he plays with Manute Bol's son on his HS team and Shaq's son on his AAU team.
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AsiaSunset
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10-12-17 10:34 AM - Post#233845
In response to TheLine
I think Wang is a PF period. He might be considered a 5 in a Princeton style offense even though their style has evolved. But teach him the hook shot and the up and under and he looks like Hans Brase or the many Princeton 5's that proceeded him. For us, he looks like a 4.
PS Bol did play on that California Supreme team along with Harvard recruit Spencer Freedman. When Bol showed up, he was their lead scorer. When he missed games Freedman usually led them in scoring. Wang actually played against Mason Forbes in the Peach Jam tourney.
The big question has already been asked by others - defensive ability. There is little team defense played in AAU ball and highlight film tends to feature blocks rather than defensive fundamentals. So - who knows.
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Silver Maple
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10-12-17 10:58 AM - Post#233847
In response to AsiaSunset
Maybe I'm naive, but I'm not worried about his defensive abilities. Donahue et al appear to have developed a defensive scheme that players who are not individual defensive standouts can execute effectively as a team. I expect that Wang will be able to play within that system as well.
I also can't help but notice that he seems to have a pretty good form on his jump shot, with a nice, high release point.
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TheLine
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2018 recruiting 10-12-17 11:18 AM - Post#233848
In response to Silver Maple
SM, you're being naive.
First, there's little chance he's going to be able to get away with being the primary "under the basket" defender (I know you didn't say he would be, just pointing it out). It's Brodeur now, then hopefully Simmons after that. So I'm happy he's played mostly at PF in HS.
Wang is going to have to be able to guard the other team's PF, which is sometimes going to be a tall wing. And you can't hide everyone on defense, even with the type of schemes Penn was using last year. And you can't play zone all the time.
Edited by TheLine on 10-12-17 11:19 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Okoro Dude
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10-12-17 11:28 AM - Post#233849
In response to Jeff2sf
I'm with you. Seems like a solid recruit with a track record playing with and against other very good players. Doesn't catch us up to the others, but I would have been seriously depressed to lose out on yet another known target.
Let's hope there is at least one nice surprise left. Only need to hit on a couple of the right kids per class. Our margin for error in this class is still low, but I feel better than I did yesterday.
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mrjames
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10-12-17 11:55 AM - Post#233852
In response to Okoro Dude
My comp would be Jon Jaques. Role player. Good floor spacer. Might not ever be a guy that plays 25-30 mins a game - rather more of a right spot, right time type. He certainly has a plus skill, which is always a good starting point.
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TheLine
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10-12-17 12:42 PM - Post#233858
In response to mrjames
Funny, Jaques was the player I was thinking of but I haven't seen enough of Wang to know how good of a comp that really is.
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Mike Porter
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10-12-17 02:29 PM - Post#233863
In response to TheLine
I was wondering if a slightly more versital Jan Fikiel was a good comparison? Either way still happy to see him come to Penn.
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TheLine
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10-12-17 03:08 PM - Post#233865
In response to Mike Porter
Mike, you may be underestimating how good Jaques was as a floor spacer his senior year.
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Mike Porter
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10-15-17 07:12 PM - Post#234017
In response to TheLine
Think we've hashed out Mike Wang convo quite a bit but sorry I never responded here.
Bottom line I don't like any of the comparisons (including my own) because I've seen so little video, but what I do know is I'm glad Wang is coming to Penn because I'm a fan of 6'9"/6'10" guys who can hit 3s! I'm going to see if I can catch a game or two of his out here if possible. That will prob be more valuable.
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Mike Porter
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10-15-17 07:14 PM - Post#234018
In response to Mike Porter
Changing gears...
I saw Amir Harris decommitted from URI. I know his final two before were URI and Temple, but anyone know if there is a chance we could get back in the mix here?
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Silver Maple
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10-15-17 08:52 PM - Post#234022
In response to Mike Porter
Bottom line I don't like any of the comparisons (including my own) because I've seen so little video, but what I do know is I'm glad Wang is coming to Penn because I'm a fan of 6'9"/6'10" guys who can hit 3s!
I'm pretty sure Steve Donahue feels the same way. Wang's game is likely to fit well into Penn's system.
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20Penn14
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10-16-17 05:57 PM - Post#234057
In response to Silver Maple
Kris Wooten tweeted that he will announce his decision on Friday
6'0 180 PG with offers from: Fordham, Penn, Boston University, Elon, American
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Mike Porter
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10-20-17 02:46 PM - Post#234266
In response to 20Penn14
Doesn't seem like he was a priority, but looks like he committed to Elon.
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besnoah
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10-22-17 02:12 PM - Post#234332
In response to Mike Porter
Verbal Commits
2018 Providence Day (NC) G Trey Wertz has committed to Santa Clara.
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