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mrjames 
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10-22-17 03:34 PM - Post#234336    
    In response to besnoah

Yeah, sadly was never going Ivy. Won't lose good kids like this forever, but still not quite to the point where going Ivy is an easy decision for all.

 
Penndemonium 
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10-22-17 05:23 PM - Post#234339    
    In response to mrjames

mrjames, I'm curious what you mean by that. Is there still a meaningful financial gap vs. a scholarship?

 
penn nation 
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10-22-17 07:47 PM - Post#234345    
    In response to Penndemonium

  • Penndemonium Said:
mrjames, I'm curious what you mean by that. Is there still a meaningful financial gap vs. a scholarship?



This has been the subject of many a heated thread on this board, as the answer is "it depends".

If you're talking about Harvard nowadays, for example, the answer is probably 'no' given its unparalleled ability to dole out financial aid versus some of the other Ivies.


 
mrjames 
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2018 recruiting
10-22-17 08:47 PM - Post#234347    
    In response to penn nation

Our league loses/does not compete for lots of talent each year that doesn't get a full or substantially full ride under current FA guidelines. There don't seem to be real substantial, consistent differences between the schools on the FA front, however the strategy behind which prospects to pursue given an FA read obviously differs. It's all game theory; Finite resources, can't pursue everyone, so, all else equal, do I pursue the prospect that will get a full ride but for whose services I face stiff competition across the league OR do I pursue a prospect that has to pay a substantial amount, but for whose services I might have a much clearer shot.

Teams that are more confident they can win battles against the rest of the league might, given the parameters of this game, opt to endure the competition for prospects who get full aid, while others might try to prioritize some prospects who might be willing to pay to attend but might not.

Not speaking to the specific case here, but just Ivy recruiting in general right now.

 
Penndemonium 
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10-23-17 03:44 AM - Post#234353    
    In response to mrjames

Thanks mrjames. Clearly Harvard and Princeton are in the camp of confident they can win vs. competition. Not clear if Yale or Penn should feel that confidence or not.



 
Tiger69 
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Re: 2018 recruiting
10-23-17 11:20 PM - Post#234449    
    In response to mrjames

Perhaps, you could cite a few examples?

 
rbg 
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10-24-17 08:59 AM - Post#234456    
    In response to mrjames

Looks like Wertz chose Santa Clara, in part, for the allure of playing for Coach Sendek and becoming the next James Harden.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/high-schoo...



 
AsiaSunset 
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10-27-17 06:31 AM - Post#234712    
    In response to rbg

Penn offered 2018 Ricky Lindo who I believe is a 2018 hs grad even though one of the recruiting sites lists him as a 2019.

Lindo is 6-7 or 6-8 with guard like skills (grew 6 inches in hs). He would seem to be a wing in our system who would be strong at attacking the basket and defending his position. The film on the internet dates back to Dec 2016 and shows him making his 3 pointers. He has a classic stroke but, as we all know, highlight film tends to leave out the misses.

At any rate, we missed out on a couple of good wings, Lindo has a bunch of Ivy and other mid major offers and would be a very interesting addition to our 2018 class (assuming he is a 2018).

 
mrjames 
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10-27-17 08:23 AM - Post#234730    
    In response to AsiaSunset

Heard that name a *lot* more earlier in the cycle. It's not a great sign when you stop hearing a name, but there can be a lot of reasons for it - not all bad.

 
TheLine 
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10-27-17 08:50 AM - Post#234742    
    In response to mrjames

Highlights remind me of Danny Monckton. Has some hops, could be a useful defender, made outside shots (of course) and didn't look awkward at it.

Other offers look to be from comparables (Ivy, Patriot) and low/mid-majors if info on sites are accurate.

Plays in a public HS which may account for lack of publicity. I'm in just for that - AI's biggest casualty has been the urban public HS player.

https://www.prephoops.com/2017/07/recruiting-re por...



 
AsiaSunset 
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10-27-17 08:50 AM - Post#234743    
    In response to mrjames

Between Twitter and other recruiting sites there are indications of the following offers:

Penn - just now
Long Beach State - 10/18
Bucknell - 10/13
East Carolina - 7/4
JMU - 5/2
GW - 5/1
Lehigh 4/26
Loyola -4/26
Yale - 4/24
High Point - 4/23
Brown -4/18
Harvard - 4/8
Campbell -2/17
RMU - 1/25
BGU - 1/25
Canisus - 1/25
Mt St Mary's - 1/3


 
mrjames 
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10-27-17 09:34 AM - Post#234749    
    In response to AsiaSunset

Don't know about Brown, but Harvard and Yale offers don't exist anymore, I don't think.

 
TheLine 
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10-27-17 09:55 AM - Post#234755    
    In response to mrjames

Plays for Panamanian youth teams.

Seems stoked about the Penn offer on twitter.


 
AsiaSunset 
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10-27-17 10:02 AM - Post#234758    
    In response to TheLine

I agree Mike. You have Kirkwood and Yale has Cotton.

I forgot Columbia on the list I posted. They offered him on 1/16.

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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10-27-17 10:11 AM - Post#234761    
    In response to AsiaSunset

Kid plays at Wilson, my local public school. May have to check him out.

What exactly constitutes a recruiting violation? Just want to be clear.

 
91Quake 
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10-27-17 10:46 AM - Post#234778    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

Considering UNC got no penalties for fake classes, I think you have to hand them an envelope of cash. And post the video online. And alert the NCAA as to what happened. (For the record, I joke.)



 
palestra38 
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10-27-17 11:00 AM - Post#234784    
    In response to 91Quake

Yet Pitino got run out of town by a blowjob (he clearly would have survived the current scandal had it not been for that).

 
KenZ 
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10-27-17 11:33 AM - Post#234799    
    In response to palestra38

Lindo indicated some time ago that he plans to do a post grad year. i assume this is why the chatter quieted down and also why he is listed as a 2019.

 
91Quake 
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10-27-17 12:51 PM - Post#234811    
    In response to KenZ

That is accurate but he seems to have recently maybe changed his thinking and could come in as a 2018.

Another interesting aspect here is that he grew 6" from his sophomore to his junior season and went from being a guard to much more of a wing player.

 
TheLine 
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10-27-17 01:24 PM - Post#234820    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

A meet and greet at ShopRite is OK. Offering to put the tab on your Price Plus card might not be.


 
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