HARVARDDADGRAD
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07-29-17 01:42 PM - Post#231402
In response to PennFan10
It's a big deal if a recruit worked hard to barely get to 178 (or thereabouts) in the first place.
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Mike Porter
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07-29-17 05:22 PM - Post#231403
In response to PennFan10
Definitely a good flag from Mike as I'd forgotten about that.
I like that Jeff isn't concerned. There is still a lot of time, but clearly Harvard and Princeton are off to a good start. Would be nice if we can land one of our primary targets early too. Seems like our best hope is Matt Cotton.
What is more concerning is that all the new offers for 2018 seem to be lower level 2* guys...
I'm not worried yet, but let's see where things are by end of the summer.
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Penndemonium
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07-30-17 07:00 AM - Post#231405
In response to Mike Porter
I understand the Ivy concerns about academics, but it's sad that a person is reduced to such numbers. I think Jerome had problems with his test scores and had to re-take. Everything I heard was that he worked hard at the books. I had some team-mates in a similar situation who wound up to be solid students. You can't measure fire in the belly through AI, but you can discriminate against minorities, economically disadvantaged, and foreigners. Congrats to the Ivy Presidents on that.
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mrjames
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07-30-17 08:07 AM - Post#231406
In response to Penndemonium
Bingo. The AI is a silly construct given all we know about test scores and given how GPAs differ across schools, but luckily (or unluckily for us sports fans) many institutions are going above and beyond to keep kids out who are indeed AI qualified. (The opposite - taking kids under the bar who demonstrate they genuinely care about learning and the Ivy experience - would be nice as a balance, but alas...).
The good news is that, with the incentive structure of FinAid, Ivies are working hard to get the demographics that are often discriminated against in the testing process across the bar, because the ability to provide a quasi-full-ride makes matriculation more likely. Whereas the richer folks among us can get their kids tons of test prep classes to artificially raise their scores, but then are less likely to commit because they'd have to pay full.
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section110
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07-30-17 10:37 AM - Post#231407
In response to mrjames
Amen
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penn nation
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07-30-17 12:29 PM - Post#231408
In response to mrjames
Legacy admissions, and/or uberwealthy folks donating a ton of $$ so that their kid can get accepted to an elite school, perpetuate the structural inequity.
Bingo. The AI is a silly construct given all we know about test scores and given how GPAs differ across schools, but luckily (or unluckily for us sports fans) many institutions are going above and beyond to keep kids out who are indeed AI qualified. (The opposite - taking kids under the bar who demonstrate they genuinely care about learning and the Ivy experience - would be nice as a balance, but alas...).
The good news is that, with the incentive structure of FinAid, Ivies are working hard to get the demographics that are often discriminated against in the testing process across the bar, because the ability to provide a quasi-full-ride makes matriculation more likely. Whereas the richer folks among us can get their kids tons of test prep classes to artificially raise their scores, but then are less likely to commit because they'd have to pay full.
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20Penn14
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07-30-17 08:27 PM - Post#231411
In response to penn nation
According to COBL, Penn has interest in:
Ian Robertson, a 6-6, 205-pound wing forward
http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...
Kenny Jones, 6-1 PG
http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/s...
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pennhoops
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07-30-17 08:54 PM - Post#231412
In response to 20Penn14
Another 4*, Jake Forrester, is no longer considering Penn (via VC).
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besnoah
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07-31-17 03:01 PM - Post#231431
In response to pennhoops
I am a little surprised this didn't happen sooner.
JerseyShoreWarriorsâ€
Univ of Penn offers Drew Friberg
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pennhoops
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08-04-17 12:21 PM - Post#231633
In response to besnoah
From VC, Penn has offered Aaron Nesmith, 6-5 SF from Charleston, SC.
https://verbalcommits.com/players/aaron-nesmith
2* but most of recent his gazillion or so offers are from HMs so I'd expect that figure to rise. Most of the Ivies have also offered.
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rbg
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08-04-17 01:48 PM - Post#231634
In response to pennhoops
VC lists him as a SF, but he sees himself as a wing.
http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/univer sity-...
http://www.gatorcountry.com/florida-gators-basket b...
He will be visiting Vaderbilt this weekend and then expects to cut his list down to 6 a few days later. Then, he will make his decision in November.
http://www.goupstate.com/sports/20170803/music -cit...
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Mike Porter
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08-09-17 12:26 AM - Post#231705
In response to rbg
Matt Cotton took unofficial visit to Harvard earlier this week. So with Yale offer too, seems like we've got a lot of Ivy competition here (though we definitely have been talking to him the longest).
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Mike Porter
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08-13-17 02:07 PM - Post#231916
In response to Mike Porter
Not sure how hard we were recruiting him (since we offered late even though I'm sure staff saw a lot of him), but Jelani Williams high school teammate Saddiq Bey trimmed his list to 6 and Penn didn't make it. Only Ivy school is Princeton (lots of higher level schools like Miami remain).
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rbg
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08-14-17 08:30 AM - Post#231937
In response to rbg
Aaron Nesmith has trimmed his list to seven and Penn did not make the cut.
He is still looking at Harvard, Yale, Florida, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Georgetown and Virginia Tech.
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pennhoops
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08-14-17 12:21 PM - Post#231967
In response to rbg
Our list is becoming a two-star parade in a hurry. Matt Cotton or bust.
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Jeff2sf
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08-15-17 09:03 AM - Post#232005
In response to pennhoops
this is fine
this is fine
this is fine
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Mike Porter
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08-15-17 07:00 PM - Post#232038
In response to Jeff2sf
Yeah a little concerning we aren't getting in final lists at least. I'm going to assume your convincing yourself Jeff? Serenity now?!
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pennhoops
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08-15-17 08:56 PM - Post#232042
In response to Mike Porter
Michael Wang, 6-9, Mater Dei. Not the dude who sued over supposedly discriminatory admissions practices.
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Jeff2sf
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08-15-17 09:58 PM - Post#232043
In response to pennhoops
serenity now, insanity later.
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Mike Porter
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08-15-17 11:10 PM - Post#232044
In response to pennhoops
Hey pennhoops - are you saying we are in final group for Michael Wang? I don't see much about his offers online.
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