JadwinGeorge
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01-10-17 06:55 PM - Post#217939
In response to PennFan10
Penn gets bad refs on the road and at home. Same old tired story. Thanks for the edit. How ironic would it be if penn misses its own tourney??? If you can't beat Yale at home you may have some issues.
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SRP
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01-10-17 07:01 PM - Post#217940
In response to mrjames
Okay, I forgot about the three bottom-feeders having to play each other. That's six wins out of the total 56 (imagine all teams going .500 to get that) that must go to the bottom three.
That leaves 50 wins for the top 5 to split up. Each starts with six wins from beating the assumed bottom-feeders twice each. 50-30 = 20 wins available in games among the top five, with a maximum of 8 and a minimum of 0 for a single team. We want to maximize the record of the fifth-best team to find out what we need to be sure of making the folly under these constraints. If each top-five team goes 4-4 against the other top five teams, that seems to yield five teams at 10-4. I don't see any problem with the wins adding up under that scenario. So the best possible fifth-best record is 10-4.
So: One down, and ten to go for Princeton.
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1LotteryPick1969
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01-10-17 07:05 PM - Post#217941
In response to mrjames
I've never been good at these types of problems, though, so my logic could be off somewhere.
You are kidding, aren't you?
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sparman
PhD Student
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Reg: 12-08-04
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Penn 01-10-17 08:24 PM - Post#217951
In response to PennFan10
So, the assessment that outcomes are rigged seems to be a default Penn attitude.
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PennFan10
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Re: Penn 01-10-17 11:40 PM - Post#217967
In response to sparman
So, the assessment that outcomes are rigged seems to be a default Penn attitude.
I believe I highlighted 3 plays where officials made calls in the last minute (foul on Howard, no call on Betley and foul on Foreman) that were inconsistent. No one is arguing the fouls or the inconsistency. I also said that because this inconsistency happened in the final minute, it had an impact on Penn's ability to come back from a 5 pt deficit. Noah Savage, on the broadcast, said exactly what I have just said.
I admitted (more than once) that Penn had other chances, that other calls were made and missed, that it was a rough game.
Rigged? Bad refs? Sour grapes....No one has said anything like this.
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SomeGuy
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01-11-17 08:43 AM - Post#217975
In response to JadwinGeorge
I don't think the game Friday is a must win by any stretch. Saturday is the must win.
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bradley
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01-11-17 10:40 AM - Post#217983
In response to SomeGuy
I agree. As long as Penn comes out of this weekend, 1-2, they should be ok. A win against Brown would be a big plus as Brown may be possible competition for the 4th spot. Even if Penn goes 0-3, they are not out of the hunt for the 4th spot although it will be challenging.
For the Tigers coming into the season, they needed to come out of the first 3 home games with at least or 2-1 record if they want to compete for the 1st seed. This upcoming weekend may be their most challenging home weekend of the season with Brown and Yale. Yale has veteran experience and their non-conference stats are slightly better than the Tigers. They actually look like Princeton on offense with very good ball movement plus they play tough hard nosed defense. Best win of last year was when Yale came to Jadwin and the Tigers stepped up and beat Sears and company by 12 points. Unfortunately, Caruso who terrorized the Bulldogs in the prior 2 years will not be there.
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palestra38
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Re: Penn 01-11-17 12:07 PM - Post#217987
In response to sparman
If "default" means one (younger) Penn poster who is pretty much alone in that view.
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penn nation
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Re: Penn 01-11-17 12:31 PM - Post#217990
In response to palestra38
I think our friend from Nassau was referring to the incoming President.
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PennFan10
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Re: Penn 01-11-17 03:32 PM - Post#218008
In response to palestra38
If "default" means one (younger) Penn poster who is pretty much alone in that view.
There were NO Penn posters with that view.
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sparman
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Re: Penn 01-12-17 08:58 PM - Post#218128
In response to penn nation
I think our friend from Nassau was referring to the incoming President.
Or as he is sometimes known (and at the risk of going over the head of some of your younger colleagues), the Siberian Candidate.
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