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Username Post: Cornell Game #1        (Topic#19835)
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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01-28-17 04:47 PM - Post#219723    

Dartmouth Basketball
Predictions Update
Jan 28, 2017

• After losing to Columbia 66-54 yesterday, Dartmouth is now projected to finish the regular season 6-21 (3-11 Ivy).
• We currently rank Dartmouth as the #296 team in the country, and the #8 team in the Ivy.
• Next game: Sat, Jan 28 at #251 Cornell. Our power ratings give the Big Green a 26% chance to win.
"...no excuses - only results!”


 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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Re: Cornell Game #1
01-28-17 05:22 PM - Post#219727    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

Were finally on ESPN! 7:00 pm 1/28/17

ESPN3

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DARTMOUTH NOTES


ONLINE RADIO CAST

STATS
"...no excuses - only results!”


 
hoopla 
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01-28-17 06:35 PM - Post#219735    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

Nice!

 
hoops123 
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01-28-17 08:00 PM - Post#219742    
    In response to hoopla

Half time summary:

10 team turnovers already. Think Boudreaux has 3. cant win games losing the ball. Our team is not playing any semblance of defense. Guilian and Miles jogging after their man. giving 3 pt shooters 6 foot cushions. Getting killed by a mediocre Cornell team. Urge you all to key on Guilien and Miles on defense. Not much to look at as they dont play tough and they dont play defense. Boudreaux got blown by once on a pump fake, but generall playing gettings well.

Barry: Started hot. Not playing particularly good defense. Missed last 3 three pointers. Running the offense. 8 points

Boudreaux: Turnovers...cant happen. Hes working hard inside. team getting him the ball way too late. 10 pts 7 rebounds so far. only one hitting the boards.

Smith: Not passing to wide open guys. Zero court vision. Missing open guys, taking awful driving shots. No defense at all. Awful

Wright: No defense. A couple of rebounds and points. No impact so far.

Sistare: Fair defense. Good shot or two.

Johnson: on the bench for a reason.


Wes/Ike: Nothing going on. A board and point or two. One block I think. Down 12 at half.

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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01-28-17 08:24 PM - Post#219743    
    In response to hoops123

thanks for the update
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hoops123 
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01-28-17 08:42 PM - Post#219745    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

Taylor Johnson is a disaster. More turnovers than a bakery. Fouls, missed wide open layups. Boudreaux missing at the foul line

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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01-28-17 08:49 PM - Post#219746    
    In response to hoops123

The coach wants Johnson on the floor. He said it in an interview recently. He sees something beyond the numbers.
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GoBigGreenBasketball 
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01-28-17 08:54 PM - Post#219748    
    In response to hoops123

How did the game turn out?
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hoops123 
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01-28-17 08:56 PM - Post#219749    
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Another poorly coached game. Offense poorly organized. Random, feed to the block. Nothing from Wright (7 points, 6 rebs, 2 assists, T/O 1), Smith (9 points, 2, reb, 0 ASSISTS which is horrific in a 2 guard) Boudreaux (23 points, 14 rebs, t/o 4), Barry (8 points, 0 assists, 1 t/o), Fleming (3 points, 1 assist, 3 rebs)Johnson (8 points, 1 reb, 1 asst, 3 t/o). Beaten by an awful Cornell team. Our inability to play any semblance of defense, our disorganized offense, our unusually high turnovers every game, and head scratching coaching decisions/non-decisions is a recipe for a full season disaster. This isnt rebuilding. This is flailing in place and showing no improvement. c'mo coaches. At least get your team to play defense!

 
hoops123 
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01-28-17 08:57 PM - Post#219750    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

We lost 75-62

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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01-29-17 12:58 AM - Post#219776    
    In response to hoops123

Oh that's not good. Well,I'm hoping Boudreaux doesn't bail on the program. I wouldn't be shocked is he does a Mitola so he can go play somewhere else with his last year of eligibility. Look at how Grant Mullins is faring at a big program. It's got to be tempting. He's good enough to play in the ACC, Big 12, or PAC12.
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hoopla 
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01-29-17 10:12 AM - Post#219790    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

This season and any collateral damage (such as Boudreaux transferring) is the result of the ADs decision last spring

Coach Mac makes mistakes as all coaches do, but the AD is 100% responsible for this one


 
JadwinGeorge 
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01-29-17 10:37 AM - Post#219792    
    In response to hoops123

I have not seen Dartmouth enough to judge the validity of your observations regarding your team. I have seen Cornell often enough to reject your characterization of the Big Red as "awful". You may have been correct in November, but Earl has huis kids playing much better now. They had Harvard on the ropes, outplaying them for 37 minutes, and came back from that disappointment 24 hours later. I thought Dartmouth competed pretty well, too, last night. The Saturday game on this back-to-back is particularly hard for the road team.

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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Cornell Game #1
01-29-17 10:51 AM - Post#219794    
    In response to hoopla

Seems like the optimism from our three game win streak is wearing off. Losing to Cornell and seeing Brown best Penn is concerning, as the probability of going winless in league increases.

We've now fallen back below the 300 level on KenPom.com (322/351) for 2017. Last year we ended the season rated 234, and in 2015 we ended the year 168.

KenPom.com now has us at 6.5% chance of going winless in the ivy League. Tripple from just days ago.

For perspective on a win loss record basis our team is now the fifth worst team in all of the NCAAM. Only teams with as few or fewer Ws are Santa Barbara 3-16, Mississippi State 3-18, NC A&T 1-19, and Alabama A&M 1-18
"...no excuses - only results!”


Edited by GoBigGreenBasketball on 01-29-17 11:17 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Old Bear 
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Cornell Game #1
01-29-17 01:53 PM - Post#219806    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

Do you think Bordeaux's mother might have a say in transfer any thoughts?

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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Re: Cornell Game #1
01-29-17 01:59 PM - Post#219807    
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I would have no idea. But graduating early and playing a grad year somewhere else isn't inconceivable. It would be a terrible look for the program if it were to happen.
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hoops123 
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01-29-17 02:16 PM - Post#219811    
    In response to hoopla

Sheehy's hiring record is pretty poor so far. Men's lacrosse last year 1-13, Women's basketball last year 12-18, this year 6-11, Men's basketball this year 3-14. At some point trustees and alumni are going to ask Sheehy "you hired these people, why aren't we winning?". There are many other coaches that he's hired. According to a friend in the athletic department, many top assistant coaches applied for the Dartmouth Men's head coaching job including Mike Schrage from Stanford. When googling him, he worked for not only Johnny Dawkins (Duke standout and Coach K protégé), but also worked for Bobby Knight and Coach K. Apparently he really wanted the job and my contact said he put together a 2 inch thick binder of his game plan for his first year if hired and his schedule for year 1. To the hour! Schrage didn't make the final 5 cut! Billy Taylor, asst coach Iowa and former Ball State head coach (6 years) also very much wanted the job. no dice. Brian Earl (Princeton asst and current Cornell Head coach) was a finalist. He has turned the Cornell program around obviously. Why didn't they receive serious consideration you ask? Peter Roby (Dartmouth 79') is the AD at Northeastern and apparently pushed/convinced Sheehy to hire McLaughlin. New England AD, New England basketball, good ol' boy network. Do things for friends, not the right reasons for the school ,but make it look good and justifiable. My contact said the decision was pretty much made before the final cut interviews were done. So Sheehy is now on the hot seat as his coaching selections better start performing, and soon! Oh and PS, for all you pro-Cormier supporters (both of you :-)), getting rid of Cormier was the right answer for the program. In talking to players over the last several years, I could not find one that would say anything positive about him. I'm told that he was hanging around for the last few years trying to get his kids paying basketball jobs. To the outside world he may have appeared to be an ok coach (though his career record is simply awful), but internally, his tenure was a disaster. Mclaughlin is a MAJOR improvement over Cormier, even though our 3-14 start is terrible...

 
hoops123 
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Re: Cornell Game #1
01-29-17 02:27 PM - Post#219813    
    In response to Old Bear

I don't know Evan well other than meeting him and other players on a couple of occasions, but I would say him leaving is a distinct possibility. He can stay through the summers, take an extra class load, and get out in three years a la Mitola. If you were him, wouldn't you leave? Given what I've seen from McLaughlin so far, he doesn't have much to look forward to basketball wise and I would say his/Dartmouth's chances are ZERO of winning the Ivy League tourney and making it to the NCAA Tourney. and that's a shame for a player of his caliber.

 
hoopla 
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Re: Cornell Game #1
01-29-17 02:44 PM - Post#219816    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

Rough.

 
hoopla 
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Re: Cornell Game #1
01-29-17 02:52 PM - Post#219817    
    In response to Old Bear

I think like any good mom she wants what's best for her son. But he should stay! They WILL be way better next year. Coach Mac just needed to get his bearings after being inserted into the fire. They will win 15 games next year and make the tourney. And honestly it's not too late to make a power move this year.



 
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