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Username Post: Yale, etc        (Topic#19929)
Tiger69 
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Reg: 11-23-04
Re: Yale, etc
02-21-17 07:12 PM - Post#222930    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

After last weekend how can you pose Yale as our "best" NCAA representative? Seriously? Possibly, another year.

You did go to harvard, did you not?



 
SRP 
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Reg: 02-04-06
02-21-17 07:41 PM - Post#222935    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

I disagree that there is a hole at the center position. Miller is underrated and has really picked it up lately, Gladson has been solid if a tad slow and inexperienced, and Brennan has shown flashes in his short minutes. Even Aririguzoh hasn't looked bad. The small lineup has been a function of having five nearly interchangeable defenders who are all good on offense in Bell, Cannady, Cook, Stephens, and Weisz and that being too good of a mismatch to resist at times.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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02-21-17 10:24 PM - Post#222958    
    In response to SRP

Against Power 5 squads I think Princeton's centers could be a decisive liability. Remember - 0 pts and 0 rbs as a group against Harvard. Not a single big averages even 3pts. Henderson has to double aggressively against opposing centers.

Princeton is good, but not at this position.


 
SecS3 
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Age: 68
Reg: 03-17-16
02-21-17 10:31 PM - Post#222959    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Miller is overrated by most Princeton fans. If Brase had been able to play last year we might have had a couple of good wins.

 
Tiger69 
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Reg: 11-23-04
02-22-17 12:32 AM - Post#222964    
    In response to SecS3

I strongly disagree. Miller's strength is that he gives us what we need when we need it. He is a quiet and completely unselfish player. Last season he bailed us out twice in league games when the rest of our offense went silent. He is a good and hardworking defender and rebounder who usually takes away the inside game of much glossier opponents. He buys into our team approach. You'll never hear him whine. As hard as Hans Brase played, he was often overmatched by taller opponents. If we could only have one or the other this season, we were lucky it was Pete Miller.

 
Tiger81 
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Tiger81
Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
02-22-17 05:01 AM - Post#222968    
    In response to Tiger69

Well said Tiger69. Clearly Miller and the other centers don't present a game-planning challenge compared to the rest of the starters and Bell. But they know their role to make the offense hard to defend and they execute it well. Ball screens, spacing, and passing from the 5 spot are much more important than scoring for this year's team. And when the team has needed rebounds and blocked shots, Pete Miller has been a dependable contributor. If the team makes it to the NCAA's it will be due to a consistently stout defense and an offense with many weapons and Miller has been a big part of both even if his box score numbers are not impressive.

 
TigerFan 
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Reg: 11-21-04
02-22-17 06:45 AM - Post#222973    
    In response to Tiger81

I completely agree. And look what he did against Brown when they chose to focus on the other four Tigers--a quick 10 points from Pete made a big difference.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
Masters Student
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Loc: New Jersey
Reg: 01-21-14
02-22-17 10:37 AM - Post#222992    
    In response to TigerFan

Miller definitely contributes - against some teams. His better games are against smaller Ivy squads. My point - which started this part of the discussion - was that Miller (and Brennan/Gladson) don't stack up well against bigger athletic squads, a weakness that could be exploited in the NCAA's. Against Harvard, Miller started, played 2 minutes, committed a foul, was pulled - and Henderson never played him again. Again, none of those three scored or grabbed a rebound in 32 combined minutes.

I started to look at a few boxscores and stopped after two games. My observation is evidenced by what Mika (26pts/18rbs) and Kempton (24pts/11reb) did in Princeton's first two games. (Yes, Brase played, but so did the others.) My point is that Princeton's bigs are a problem against a bigger talented opponent. If that opponent can play two or three big athletic guys (AZ, 'Cuse), what happens to Princeton's offense if two of Miller/Brennan/Gladson have to be on the court at the same time?

 
bradley 
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02-22-17 10:47 AM - Post#222995    
    In response to Tiger81

A wish at the beginning of the year was that the Tigers would develop the capability to play two bigs at the same time when they might face a ACC, Big Ten, etc. in the NCAA championship. I was not sure if they needed two bigs in defending Harvard bigs which was the only Ivy League team of some concern. Last year, the Tigers had issues when facing the size of Maryland and Miami as Weisz and/or Caruso gave up too much size down deep. I was surprised that Henderson did not try Brase and Miller together at the beginning of the season to develop this capability.

Fortunately, Stephens got added to the mix and he certainly plays bigger than his height. Weisz is much better as a deep down defender this year and Cook seems to have added a few inches to his leaping ability. No one other than VCU has provided physical issues over the Tigers but that may change if they go to the Big Dance. It will be interesting to see if the Harvard bigs have more success at Jadwin than Lavietes.

The only Ivy big who plays the post continuously, Downey, had little success against Miller and crew but surprisingly had 15 pts/14 rebounds against Harvard -- go figure.

 
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