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Username Post: Yale, etc        (Topic#19929)
Tiger81 
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02-18-17 09:03 AM - Post#222259    
    In response to Tiger81

One more thought: I really liked the way Cannady played in the second half after his out-of-body first half performance. Yale gave him much less room and he responded by playing within the offense, taking the ball to the rim and not forcing contested jumpers. And the extra attention he attracted also created additional opportunities that were seized by the dynamic play of Myles Stephens.

 
bradley 
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02-18-17 09:05 AM - Post#222260    
    In response to SRP

Still unlikely that the Tigers will go 14-0 as there is much basketball left to be played. Brown could be a trap game although the Tigers have matched up well in the past. Several challenging games ahead and anything can happen in one game.

Your point about a team going 14-0 and then playing two games in 24 hours with the current format to get a NCAA bid is perfectly valid but there will be creative argument(s) to counter that --- what about an injury to a star player, etc. etc. Cannady made a comment in post-game that the Tigers would be in reasonably good shape for NCAA bid without the new format. There will be extra pressure on the Tigers to perform in the IL Tournament if they go 14-0.

During IL Tournament weekend, I plan on skiing and not watching a minute and wait on the other side to see if the Tigers play in the NCAA or NIT Tournament. Will look forward to their participation in either but most importantly, I hope that they close the deal on winning the IL regular season -- it has been a while.



 
1LotteryPick1969 
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02-18-17 12:00 PM - Post#222276    
    In response to Tiger81

  • Tiger81 Said:
out-of-body first half performance.



Makes you wonder how high is his ceiling? I don't think anyone other than Bradley has scored 40 in a game. I think Brian Taylor hit 39 once, and Geoff Petrie scored 32 once.

 
SecS3 
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02-18-17 02:17 PM - Post#222293    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Petrie's scored 39 and Kevin Mullin had 38.

 
penn nation 
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02-19-17 08:35 PM - Post#222594    
    In response to Tiger69


Very tough to beat a team 3 times, as Penn found out in '96. Would be beyond awesome to see Penn come out of nowhere and knock off Princeton at the Palestra.

But a lot of work to be done before Penn can get to that point.
  • Tiger69 Said:
Tough talk for a team with a 2-6 record



Bump. And now you guys are already starting to complain about potentially facing this 2-6 team in the Palestra.


 
SRP 
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02-19-17 09:42 PM - Post#222595    
    In response to penn nation

It would be so tempting to tank the Columbia game just to frustrate Penn. On the other hand, there is a moral imperative to destroy Columbia fans' hopes and dreams. Quite a dilemma.

 
Tiger69 
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02-19-17 09:56 PM - Post#222597    
    In response to penn nation

And how would you feel if the tables were turned and you were looking at a possible championship and then tourney against Princeton in Jadwin?

Penn has done a remarkable turnaround and appears to be very tough to beat ... now. But, they still managed to lose their first six.

 
Tiger69 
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02-19-17 09:58 PM - Post#222598    
    In response to SRP

After the way we nearly lost to Columbia in Jadwin, it might not be a "tank".

 
penn nation 
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02-19-17 10:15 PM - Post#222603    
    In response to SRP

  • SRP Said:
It would be so tempting to tank the Columbia game just to frustrate Penn.



And even more delicious if Harvard then runs the table and, thanks to your tanking, knocks you out of the first seed.


 
westphillywarrior 
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02-19-17 10:29 PM - Post#222607    
    In response to penn nation

  • penn nation Said:
  • SRP Said:
It would be so tempting to tank the Columbia game just to frustrate Penn.



And even more delicious if Harvard then runs the table and, thanks to your tanking, knocks you out of the first seed.




Think this through PN. Princeton would rather not have the first seed. They would much rather see a Harvard - Penn first round match.


 
palestra38 
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02-19-17 10:31 PM - Post#222608    
    In response to westphillywarrior

Cool it guys, the thing that the Princeton fans are complaining of is exactly what we would be complaining if the situation were reversed. Their team will not tank--it thinks (rightfully) that it can beat anyone in the League and will try and run the table.

Rather than think about the Princeton tank, let's all agree that Penn should run the table and Yale lose 2 so that Penn gets 3rd seed and we don't have to meet in a first round.

 
penn nation 
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02-19-17 10:33 PM - Post#222609    
    In response to palestra38

Out of curiosity, where are the teams being housed?

 
Mike Porter 
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02-19-17 10:40 PM - Post#222611    
    In response to penn nation

First, Penn Nation - just stop it buddy. It's way, way to early for this talk. Much work to be done to even get us in the tournament.

Second, Tiger69 - I'd bet that PN is anti-tournament just like the majority of Penn fans were. That ship has sailed however so no point crying over the split milk. All we can do is embrace the madness. ;-)

 
Tiger69 
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02-19-17 10:44 PM - Post#222612    
    In response to westphillywarrior

What we (actually I) would prefer is for the League champ to rightfully receive the NCAA bid and for another Ivy to get a 2nd bid (and free pizza if it wins the Tourney).

I know ... It's not going to happen

 
palestra38 
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02-19-17 10:50 PM - Post#222613    
    In response to penn nation

I got room in my house----big party the night before!


 
penn nation 
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02-19-17 10:57 PM - Post#222615    
    In response to palestra38

I was thinking more along the lines of making sure that the visitors get treated to the best of Center City while our Quakers get a good night's sleep in their own rooms.

Really, I'm just trying to have a little fun with this with our NJ neighbors. Correct, I did not want to see a tourney. And yes, we haven't gotten there (yet).

I just think it's funny that some Tiger fans have suddenly become fearful of our bunch that might spoil the party that they think they're entitled to.

 
SRP 
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02-19-17 11:12 PM - Post#222619    
    In response to penn nation

I wouldn't really want to tank it. I hate it when PU loses. But if MH wants to keep some of the starters more rested and reduce injury risk at this point, it would be hard to blame him.

 
Tiger69 
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02-19-17 11:24 PM - Post#222622    
    In response to penn nation

You hit that on the head.

We can never know, but can still wonder how all the young Ivy talent would fare in OOC now. Since all our games are now in conference, there is no way to demonstrate improvement to our "friends" from the power conferences who dominate the NCAA selection committee.

I hope and expect the Ivies to perform better in OOC games next fall ... if any power conference teams have the cajones to play Ivies home and home.

 
sparman 
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02-20-17 09:29 AM - Post#222633    
    In response to penn nation

PN is right about one thing - I think the team that won the regular season is, or should be, entitled to go the party. And as some of colleagies have noted, he would feel the same way if Penn won.

 
umbrellaman 
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02-20-17 03:23 PM - Post#222680    
    In response to sparman

To be clear, while I did not prefer a tournament - what I think is the principal gripe is it being hosted at the Palestra. Mike James said the odds of Princeton beating Harvard on a neutral court are roughly the same as beating Penn on the road. So, it further warps the seeding as well. I'd prefer a tournament that rewards regular season performance, either with a home game or a bye - but at the minimum, it should be at a neutral court.
My idea where the conference gets an automatic bid - but the NCAA can choose between the regular season winner or the tournament winner is too radical, I think.


 
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