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Username Post: Princeton & Penn Weekend        (Topic#19963)
Columbia 37P6 
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Reg: 02-14-06
02-19-17 11:55 AM - Post#222449    

Time to begin planning for the two big games with Princeton and Penn next weekend whether the Lions are going to the Ivy Leagu Post-Season Tournament. Columbia has had some bad luck the last three games, but no one doubts that the Lions are a a very good basketball team and capable of defeating any Ivy League team including Princeton which we lost to by two points. Furthermore, despite the overtime loss last night, the Lions three best players--Petrasek, Smith and Hickman-- all appear to be peaking and are playing excellent basketball together. All three are terrific players. Furthermore, the Lion now have three more talented players--Tape, Coby and Voss- sharing the center position giving the Lions tremendous depth underneath the boards. Tape is an exciting player. Tape already plays the center position better than anyone Columbia has had in recent memory. Finally, Columbia now has another double digit scorer on the floor in Quinton Adlesh. When the combination of Smith, Hickman and Adlesh or Davis are on the floor Columbia can score points quickly. Hopefully, Meisner and Killingsworth will be healthy and ready to play next weekend.

 
palestra38 
Professor
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Reg: 11-21-04
Re: Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-19-17 12:25 PM - Post#222451    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

It was a surprise to me to see so many tickets available for these two games. Well, I'll be there on Saturday, for one....

 
Chet Forte 
PhD Student
Posts: 1797

Reg: 03-02-08
02-19-17 12:48 PM - Post#222453    
    In response to palestra38

We are killing ourselves with missed layups and free throws. And we need to learn to close out games.


 
Columbia Alum 
Junior
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Age: 31
Reg: 11-15-11
02-19-17 04:45 PM - Post#222560    
    In response to Chet Forte

We must win 3 of the next 4 including penn. that means beating penn at home, brown away and either Yale away or princeton at home. Penn will beat us for a 6-8 tiebreaker. There is no room for error anymore, 4th place is Penn's to lose now, we gave it away last night and penn took it this morning. If we can't win 3/4 then I have to say our coaching staff and players really didn't deserve a tourney spot this year. We flopped and turned down the heat at crunch times.

 
internetter 
Postdoc
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Loc: Los Angeles
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02-19-17 05:16 PM - Post#222567    
    In response to Columbia Alum

Time to face reality. Too many inconsistent performances,

There were excellent games, some promising player development but...
west coast fan


 
Chet Forte 
PhD Student
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Reg: 03-02-08
02-19-17 06:09 PM - Post#222579    
    In response to internetter

One interesting statistic is our record in failing to close out games. In league play our biggest loss was to Yale by 9 points, but that is a little misleading because we had to foul at the end. The rest of our losses were all one or two possession losses, usually punctuated by critical missed FTs or open looks, or blown layups. So we were tantalizingly close, and missing one more playmaker and one more glue guy. If we can sweep this coming weekend we can turn around the entire season.


 
SomeGuy 
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02-19-17 06:15 PM - Post#222581    
    In response to internetter

I'm not going to let you guys pull this reverse jinx after P38 did such a good job of doing it on the Penn board. You guys are still the favorites -- you control your own destiny, and you play us at home.

 
roarlionroar 
Freshman
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Age: 21
Reg: 02-05-14
Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-19-17 06:41 PM - Post#222583    
    In response to SomeGuy

How do you figure that? With the way Penn is playing it's hard to imagine them losing to Cornell, and it is also likely that Columbia loses to Princeton. Even if Columbia beats Penn and ties it up in the standings the lions would most likely have to sweep yale and brown on the road to seal 4th place. That is assuming Penn takes down Dartmouth.

Both teams control their own destiny, but Penn has a one game handicap as of now.

Edited by roarlionroar on 02-19-17 06:42 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
TigerFan 
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Reg: 11-21-04
Re: Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-19-17 07:11 PM - Post#222587    
    In response to roarlionroar

Good bet that Brian Earl will have Cornell ready for the Quakers on Friday.

 
westphillywarrior 
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Age: 36
Reg: 01-08-11
Re: Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-19-17 10:12 PM - Post#222601    
    In response to TigerFan

  • TigerFan Said:
Good bet that Brian Earl will have Cornell ready for the Quakers on Friday.



Oh yeah, that's a great bet. He really had them ready last week. It was 42-14 at the half.


 
Tiger69 
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Re: Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-19-17 10:35 PM - Post#222610    
    In response to TigerFan

If Penn plays anything like they did today, it won't matter what Cornell does.

 
Chet Forte 
PhD Student
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Reg: 03-02-08
02-20-17 11:08 AM - Post#222642    
    In response to Tiger69

So the issue that continues to perplex me is why -- no matter the competition -- we always play close games and why we usually fail to close out these games. We seem to get to the same place whether we are playing Princeton or Dartmouth. Either way we always play around the same level as the competition. One constant seems to be the overall strong play of our freshman point guard, who basically keeps us in every game despite his sometimes erratic shooting.


 
mountainred 
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Re: Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-20-17 11:52 AM - Post#222645    
    In response to westphillywarrior

  • westphillywarrior Said:
  • TigerFan Said:
Good bet that Brian Earl will have Cornell ready for the Quakers on Friday.



Oh yeah, that's a great bet. He really had them ready last week. It was 42-14 at the half.




Not saying Cornell beats Penn, but I doubt the Big Red plays that poorly again.

 
Tiger69 
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Re: Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-20-17 12:25 PM - Post#222648    
    In response to mountainred

Won't matter if the quackers play that well.

 
PennFan10 
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Re: Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-20-17 12:29 PM - Post#222651    
    In response to mountainred

  • mountainred Said:
  • westphillywarrior Said:
  • TigerFan Said:
Good bet that Brian Earl will have Cornell ready for the Quakers on Friday.



Oh yeah, that's a great bet. He really had them ready last week. It was 42-14 at the half.




Not saying Cornell beats Penn, but I doubt the Big Red plays that poorly again.



That's a good bet since it would be pretty hard to play any worse than Cornell played at The Palestra.

I fully expect a close game on Friday night in Ithaca. the Quakers have accomplished NOTHING yet. They have only come out of a coma and gotten off life support. Still in the ICU.


 
TigerFan 
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Re: Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-20-17 01:44 PM - Post#222667    
    In response to PennFan10

Penn can go ahead and look past Cornell if it makes you feel better but Earl has full week to prep for Penn this time and the incentive of sneaking into a tie for the 4th spot. They were leading Princeton down the stretch the last time they played a P on a Friday. Just saying...

Edited by TigerFan on 02-20-17 01:46 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Silver Maple 
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02-20-17 02:23 PM - Post#222673    
    In response to TigerFan

A team that started conference play 0-6 and that can barely afford to lose any more games shouldn't be looking past anybody.

 
Columbia Alum 
Junior
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Age: 31
Reg: 11-15-11
02-20-17 03:48 PM - Post#222685    
    In response to Silver Maple

Penn has the tiebreakers on Cornell and Columbia, only way for either team to get through is to beat penn. Penn are the favorites for 4th and the favorites to win Friday and Saturday, especially given their form over the last 4 games. It's an uphill task for Columbia, if we don't get to 7-7 while beating penn, I would count the tourney out.

 
Mike Porter 
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Mike Porter
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Reg: 11-21-04
02-20-17 04:37 PM - Post#222697    
    In response to Columbia Alum

This is one Penn fan that thinks next weekend will be a full on battle both nights. Cornell has shown it can play close to just about any Ivy team on any given night and this is at home for them. All Penn has done is come back from being dead in the water to being back in the playoff mix. We started 0-6 and equally have shown we can lose to anyone... it's far from over.

 
yoyo 
Sophomore
Posts: 100

Reg: 03-25-09
02-20-17 04:52 PM - Post#222701    
    In response to Mike Porter

Penn has no chance. Columbia has this in the bag

 
Columbia Alum 
Junior
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Age: 31
Reg: 11-15-11
02-20-17 05:22 PM - Post#222708    
    In response to yoyo

Nice yoyo, I guess Princeton isn't making the tourney either and Dartmounth's a shoe in?

 
Tiger69 
Postdoc
Posts: 2004

Reg: 11-23-04
02-20-17 07:24 PM - Post#222736    
    In response to Columbia Alum

Hey YoYo,
Love yo bravado.
Everyone shufflin' they feet,
While YOU got the mojo!

 
LionFan 
Senior
Posts: 373

Reg: 11-07-06
02-20-17 07:52 PM - Post#222743    
    In response to Tiger69

Chet, I remember under Smith there were one or two similar seasons of close losses and playing down to the competition before the team finally got over the hump. They seem to need a certain toughness that they're near having (except for Smith who looks like he's got it). But I think they'll get there. The recent comebacks bode well. If they get it right away, there's a chance for the playoffs. If not, then maybe next year if the bigs develop quickly or the year after if they don't.

 
internetter 
Postdoc
Posts: 2752

Loc: Los Angeles
Reg: 11-21-04
02-22-17 07:37 PM - Post#223055    
    In response to yoyo

A tweet from MBB has Voss as a starter, perhaps Killingsworth.
west coast fan


 
internetter 
Postdoc
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02-22-17 08:02 PM - Post#223058    
    In response to internetter

AD site has Coby and Hunter.
west coast fan


 
internetter 
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02-24-17 10:06 PM - Post#223435    
    In response to internetter

Pr 64-45; it wasn't that close. Smith outstanding in the first half, not the 2nd!
Penn beat Cor 69-66.
west coast fan


 
Columbia 37P6 
PhD Student
Posts: 1393

Reg: 02-14-06
02-24-17 10:45 PM - Post#223450    
    In response to internetter

Columbia needs to defeat Penn tomorrow night to stay in the race.

 
Chet Forte 
PhD Student
Posts: 1797

Reg: 03-02-08
02-24-17 10:53 PM - Post#223452    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

What a flop from the senior class on senior weekend. One chance for redemption.


 
cc66 
PhD Student
Posts: 1480

Reg: 10-09-09
Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-24-17 11:08 PM - Post#223456    
    In response to Chet Forte

We were pretty much shut down tonight. Wherever there is a vulnerability, whether it is Smith's height or our defense against three point shooting, Princeton exploited it. The only positive signs were Smith's first half and a few plays by Tape that hint at his potential,



Edited by cc66 on 02-24-17 11:16 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Tiger69 
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Posts: 2004

Reg: 11-23-04
Re: Princeton & Penn Weekend
02-24-17 11:38 PM - Post#223458    
    In response to cc66

I was very impressed by Tape. Has huge upside. Both teams failed to take advantage of the other offensively in first half. I kept thinking that we should have had the game put away. But there were probably many Lion fans who felt the same way about us. Good defense. Not so good ball movement.

 
cc66 
PhD Student
Posts: 1480

Reg: 10-09-09
02-24-17 11:49 PM - Post#223459    
    In response to Tiger69

Yes he does. But it probably won't be realized until next year when he plays alongside Faulds.

 
Columbia 37P6 
PhD Student
Posts: 1393

Reg: 02-14-06
02-25-17 12:11 AM - Post#223463    
    In response to cc66

Our two best players tonight were freshmen--Mike Smith and Patrick Tape. They scored nearly all of Columbia's points in the first half to keep us in the game after the team's miserable start. Our outside shooting was awful and except for Tape our big men were ineffective. Princeton took care of business early in the second half by shooting successfully over our zone defense. Obviously this team misses Meisner greatly.

 
SRP 
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02-25-17 12:38 AM - Post#223468    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

Tape's hook shot got my attention. It looked pretty pure and he got it off very quickly. If that thing is repeatable, look out.

 
cc66 
PhD Student
Posts: 1480

Reg: 10-09-09
02-25-17 11:38 AM - Post#223504    
    In response to SRP

True. During a game in which we looked pretty enfeebled, a couple of Smith's drives and Tape's hook shot were the only displays of real artistry.

 
internetter 
Postdoc
Posts: 2752

Loc: Los Angeles
Reg: 11-21-04
02-25-17 05:28 PM - Post#223558    
    In response to yoyo

Isaac Cohen back for Penn game.
west coast fan


 
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