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Dr. V 
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02-20-17 04:07 PM - Post#222687    

His team, ranked # 10 in NJ, beat the team that is # 17 in the semis of the Bergen County tourney. The writeups included: "But Stefanini began to impact the game in a plethora of ways. His rebounding, passing and key shots helped B.C. Lead . . . . He led his team, which has 2 other Div. 1 players, with 18 pts, 8 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals. In the county finals this Friday, his Bergen Catholic will face Don Bosco, ranked # 9 in the state, with whom B.C. Split this season.

 
cc66 
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02-20-17 04:17 PM - Post#222689    
    In response to Dr. V

It's curious--Stefanini only gets a 59 on ESPN recruiting, though they do describe him as a crafty European guard. Other assessments are more favorable. Do you have any idea what it is they are failing to appreciate?

NB: They gave Penn's Betley just a 62 last year, and he has been a prime force behind their resurgence.

 
Dr. V 
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02-20-17 04:27 PM - Post#222692    
    In response to cc66

People who follow the recruiting services more closely might be in a better position to comment than I. That said, that Stefanini only played one season of h.s. And only one season of AAU ball might have something to do with his ranking. Whatever, I had a chance to see him during the summer, including seeing him participate in pick up games involving our players, and he was impressive.

 
cc66 
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02-20-17 04:34 PM - Post#222695    
    In response to Dr. V

I forgot that he hasn't had much exposure to American HS bball. It sounds as if he is catching up quickly, and like Tape, though for different reasons, might be a late bloomer.

 
Mike Porter 
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02-20-17 04:41 PM - Post#222698    
    In response to cc66

Recruiting services tend to put a lot of focus on athleticism. I haven't seen him play, but what I was told by folks that have seen him often is that he's good offensively and crafty with the ball (but not quick of foot). Sounded like the big question is if he'll be able to defend at D1 level.

 
Chet Forte 
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02-20-17 05:02 PM - Post#222704    
    In response to Mike Porter

One of the services which rates all of the Ivy incoming players named him as the best incoming SG. He is supposed to be the best pure shooter among the incoming Ivy recruits.


 
SomeGuy 
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02-20-17 08:26 PM - Post#222749    
    In response to Chet Forte

Which service says that? And who else did they view as a SG? I haven't seen anything that would put him ahead of Haskett, Williams, or Desrosiers, and I really don't think he would be ahead of Schweiger either. Could be that those guys are all ranked at another position. Overall, though, Stefanini doesn't look top 10 among incoming recruits for the league next year. Faulds does, though.


 
cc66 
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02-20-17 09:28 PM - Post#222765    
    In response to SomeGuy

On ESPN, Haskett has a 75, Desrosier a 73, Schweiger an NR (No Record), and maybe my research skills are failing me, but I can't find Williams.
Faulds remains the highest at 80. FWIW, POW Boudreaux was ranked at 79, and Penn A.J. Brodeur was listed at 76.

My sense is that although the higher ranks probably means something, the IL has certainly had a number of lower ranked players who made significant contributions.

Edited by cc66 on 02-20-17 09:32 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
SomeGuy 
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Re: Stefanini
02-20-17 09:33 PM - Post#222769    
    In response to cc66

Penn's Jelani Williams. Might not be on ESPN.

 
cc66 
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02-20-17 09:42 PM - Post#222773    
    In response to SomeGuy

Yes, I know--that's who I looked up, to no avail.



 
SomeGuy 
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02-20-17 10:38 PM - Post#222779    
    In response to cc66

And I totally agree that unranked guys come in and are great immediately. Sometimes, it is kind of predictable, like with Oni. Other times, it's not predictable. So I won't be surprised if Stefanini is good, and better than more highly touted guys. But he doesn't seem to be as highly touted (or as heavily recruited) as the top 12 or so guys coming in.

 
mrjames 
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02-20-17 11:05 PM - Post#222784    
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Harvard's best recruit and one of the top ones in the league is Danilo Djuricic (Sebastian Much is probably the best). Djuricic is not rated - most likely because he reclassed from 2018, where he was getting high major offers. Haskett is a huge piece for Harvard as a perimeter stopper, but he's not going to be a huge producer on offense and won't grab attention for that reason.

Faulds is an odd fit for Engles. The kid's gonna need a calendar to time him baseline to baseline. While he's a skilled post, he'd have been great for Kyle's system, but I question how he'll mesh with Engles' more up-tempo aspirations.

For me, Myles Hanson is the best kid you guys picked up and I'm not sure it's close. Depends on how Faulds can fit.

 
Mike Porter 
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02-20-17 11:30 PM - Post#222788    
    In response to mrjames

Jelani Williams is given a 72 rating by ESPN with a write up from earlier in the season - http://m.espn.com/ncb/recruiting/recrui t?id=225031

Just behind Jarrod Simmons with 73 rating (but very old scouting report) and Eddie Scott 67 rating.

 
cc66 
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02-20-17 11:32 PM - Post#222789    
    In response to Mike Porter

Sorry I missed that.

I can't speak to the question of how Faulds fits into Engles' system, but at 80 on ESPN, he's still ranked higher than Much's 78.

 
mrjames 
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02-21-17 07:54 AM - Post#222803    
    In response to cc66

Yep. Faulds is higher rated by ESPN than Much, but Much is the better prospect.

 
TheLine 
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02-21-17 10:18 AM - Post#222827    
    In response to mrjames

By how much?


 
SomeGuy 
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02-21-17 10:31 AM - Post#222831    
    In response to TheLine

Ten Fauld.

 
Chet Forte 
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02-21-17 01:16 PM - Post#222862    
    In response to SomeGuy

There is a list that appeared on Twitter last week that I can't seem to locate which ranks the top incoming Ivy players by position and by skill. It listed a Princeton recruit as the top incoming recruit. As far as rankings, Maodo Lo only played one year of high school ball in the US before doing a PG year. I think he was either not ranked or ranked around 59 as well. And we know how that turned out. So it may be with Stefanini that we will be similarly pleasantly surprised. As far as Faulds, I have seen one four star rating and one three star rating. For Hanson I saw one 2* rating, but that was dated. I don't know how Brumant is rated.


 
Sagatius 
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02-21-17 03:04 PM - Post#222878    
    In response to Chet Forte

Try Hoopseen.com. I think this site has the article that you are referring to.

 
Chet Forte 
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02-21-17 03:43 PM - Post#222888    
    In response to Sagatius

Also, in today's NJ.com, which is covering the state championship, one of the writers (Schneider) picks Stefanini as his candidate for X factor and specifically notes that he is always tasked with shutting down the opponent's best player. He led BC with 18 in the big win over powerhouse Teaneck the other day.


 
Murph 
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Stefanini
02-22-17 03:45 PM - Post#223031    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:

Faulds is an odd fit for Engles. The kid's gonna need a calendar to time him baseline to baseline. While he's a skilled post, he'd have been great for Kyle's system, but I question how he'll mesh with Engles' more up-tempo aspirations.

For me, Myles Hanson is the best kid you guys picked up and I'm not sure it's close. Depends on how Faulds can fit.



I think it's way too soon to speculate that Faulds will not fit into Engles' transition offense. If Faulds can rebound and make the outlet pass, he'll be a huge asset to Columbia's running game.

And on those frequent occasions when Columbia's transition game will get bogged down in a half court set, Faulds' low post offense and high post passing will be very useful.



 
Chet Forte 
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02-22-17 03:52 PM - Post#223032    
    In response to Murph

Harsh words from the usually decorous mrjames about young Mr. Faulds and his alleged lack of foot speed. I haven't seen many post players who have been speed burners, but in the videos I have seen of him he doesn't appear to " need a calendar" to measure his baseline to baseline speed.


 
Silver Maple 
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02-22-17 03:59 PM - Post#223034    
    In response to Chet Forte

If Faulds is as talented as he's said to be, a smart coach (and Engles is definitely one of those) will figure out how to use him.

 
cc66 
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02-22-17 05:56 PM - Post#223048    
    In response to Silver Maple

Put another way, I'd bet that Faulds could beat Voss baseline to baseline.

Next year, Smith passing to Faulds should be a pretty potent combination.

 
Sagatius 
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Stefanini
02-22-17 08:31 PM - Post#223063    
    In response to cc66

JARON FAULDS, HOLT: The senior center finished just shy of a triple-double, scoring 22 points, grabbing 14 rebounds and blocking eight shots for the Rams in a win over Jackson.

This is in yesterday's USA Today High School Sports. Imagine what he could do if he could run!

Edited by Sagatius on 02-22-17 08:33 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Dr. V 
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02-25-17 05:33 AM - Post#223480    
    In response to Sagatius

At least our incoming did well last night. Hanson led his team with 22 in a 81-58 W. I think they're something like 18-5.

Faulds led his team, which is 14-4, with another double-double at 18 pts and 14 rbs in a 46-40 W.

Perhaps the best night, but most bitter, belonged to Stefanini. His Bergen Catholic team lost in the county finals 53-52, but the writeup informed as follows: "The best player on the court was Bergen Catholic senior guard Gabe Stefanini. The Italian scored a game-high 20 points and grabbed 12 rebounds." Bergen County is the largest in NJ with just under a million inhabitants, and the finals featured the state's # 9 team against the # 10 team.

 
Chet Forte 
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02-25-17 02:08 PM - Post#223533    
    In response to Dr. V

The reporter for nj.com did a great interview with Stefanini. His team, BC, has two other D1 players who have been eclipsed by Stefanini. His stock has been on the rise all season. One thing he has which we haven't really had all year is an outstanding three point shooter along with a quick release. I spoke to one administrator who is an impeccable source who told me that the coaches are really high on him, Faulds and Hanson.


 
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