Dr. V
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02-20-17 04:07 PM - Post#222687
His team, ranked # 10 in NJ, beat the team that is # 17 in the semis of the Bergen County tourney. The writeups included: "But Stefanini began to impact the game in a plethora of ways. His rebounding, passing and key shots helped B.C. Lead . . . . He led his team, which has 2 other Div. 1 players, with 18 pts, 8 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals. In the county finals this Friday, his Bergen Catholic will face Don Bosco, ranked # 9 in the state, with whom B.C. Split this season.
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cc66
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02-20-17 04:17 PM - Post#222689
In response to Dr. V
It's curious--Stefanini only gets a 59 on ESPN recruiting, though they do describe him as a crafty European guard. Other assessments are more favorable. Do you have any idea what it is they are failing to appreciate?
NB: They gave Penn's Betley just a 62 last year, and he has been a prime force behind their resurgence.
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Dr. V
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02-20-17 04:27 PM - Post#222692
In response to cc66
People who follow the recruiting services more closely might be in a better position to comment than I. That said, that Stefanini only played one season of h.s. And only one season of AAU ball might have something to do with his ranking. Whatever, I had a chance to see him during the summer, including seeing him participate in pick up games involving our players, and he was impressive.
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cc66
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02-20-17 04:34 PM - Post#222695
In response to Dr. V
I forgot that he hasn't had much exposure to American HS bball. It sounds as if he is catching up quickly, and like Tape, though for different reasons, might be a late bloomer.
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Mike Porter
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02-20-17 04:41 PM - Post#222698
In response to cc66
Recruiting services tend to put a lot of focus on athleticism. I haven't seen him play, but what I was told by folks that have seen him often is that he's good offensively and crafty with the ball (but not quick of foot). Sounded like the big question is if he'll be able to defend at D1 level.
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Chet Forte
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02-20-17 05:02 PM - Post#222704
In response to Mike Porter
One of the services which rates all of the Ivy incoming players named him as the best incoming SG. He is supposed to be the best pure shooter among the incoming Ivy recruits.
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SomeGuy
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02-20-17 08:26 PM - Post#222749
In response to Chet Forte
Which service says that? And who else did they view as a SG? I haven't seen anything that would put him ahead of Haskett, Williams, or Desrosiers, and I really don't think he would be ahead of Schweiger either. Could be that those guys are all ranked at another position. Overall, though, Stefanini doesn't look top 10 among incoming recruits for the league next year. Faulds does, though.
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cc66
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Stefanini 02-20-17 09:28 PM - Post#222765
In response to SomeGuy
On ESPN, Haskett has a 75, Desrosier a 73, Schweiger an NR (No Record), and maybe my research skills are failing me, but I can't find Williams.
Faulds remains the highest at 80. FWIW, POW Boudreaux was ranked at 79, and Penn A.J. Brodeur was listed at 76.
My sense is that although the higher ranks probably means something, the IL has certainly had a number of lower ranked players who made significant contributions.
Edited by cc66 on 02-20-17 09:32 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Stefanini 02-20-17 09:33 PM - Post#222769
In response to cc66
Penn's Jelani Williams. Might not be on ESPN.
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cc66
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02-20-17 09:42 PM - Post#222773
In response to SomeGuy
Yes, I know--that's who I looked up, to no avail.
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SomeGuy
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02-20-17 10:38 PM - Post#222779
In response to cc66
And I totally agree that unranked guys come in and are great immediately. Sometimes, it is kind of predictable, like with Oni. Other times, it's not predictable. So I won't be surprised if Stefanini is good, and better than more highly touted guys. But he doesn't seem to be as highly touted (or as heavily recruited) as the top 12 or so guys coming in.
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mrjames
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02-20-17 11:05 PM - Post#222784
In response to SomeGuy
Harvard's best recruit and one of the top ones in the league is Danilo Djuricic (Sebastian Much is probably the best). Djuricic is not rated - most likely because he reclassed from 2018, where he was getting high major offers. Haskett is a huge piece for Harvard as a perimeter stopper, but he's not going to be a huge producer on offense and won't grab attention for that reason.
Faulds is an odd fit for Engles. The kid's gonna need a calendar to time him baseline to baseline. While he's a skilled post, he'd have been great for Kyle's system, but I question how he'll mesh with Engles' more up-tempo aspirations.
For me, Myles Hanson is the best kid you guys picked up and I'm not sure it's close. Depends on how Faulds can fit.
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Mike Porter
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02-20-17 11:30 PM - Post#222788
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Jelani Williams is given a 72 rating by ESPN with a write up from earlier in the season - http://m.espn.com/ncb/recruiting/recrui t?id=225031
Just behind Jarrod Simmons with 73 rating (but very old scouting report) and Eddie Scott 67 rating.
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cc66
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02-20-17 11:32 PM - Post#222789
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Sorry I missed that.
I can't speak to the question of how Faulds fits into Engles' system, but at 80 on ESPN, he's still ranked higher than Much's 78.
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mrjames
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02-21-17 07:54 AM - Post#222803
In response to cc66
Yep. Faulds is higher rated by ESPN than Much, but Much is the better prospect.
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TheLine
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02-21-17 10:18 AM - Post#222827
In response to mrjames
By how much?
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SomeGuy
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02-21-17 10:31 AM - Post#222831
In response to TheLine
Ten Fauld.
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Chet Forte
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02-21-17 01:16 PM - Post#222862
In response to SomeGuy
There is a list that appeared on Twitter last week that I can't seem to locate which ranks the top incoming Ivy players by position and by skill. It listed a Princeton recruit as the top incoming recruit. As far as rankings, Maodo Lo only played one year of high school ball in the US before doing a PG year. I think he was either not ranked or ranked around 59 as well. And we know how that turned out. So it may be with Stefanini that we will be similarly pleasantly surprised. As far as Faulds, I have seen one four star rating and one three star rating. For Hanson I saw one 2* rating, but that was dated. I don't know how Brumant is rated.
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Sagatius
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02-21-17 03:04 PM - Post#222878
In response to Chet Forte
Try Hoopseen.com. I think this site has the article that you are referring to.
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Chet Forte
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02-21-17 03:43 PM - Post#222888
In response to Sagatius
Also, in today's NJ.com, which is covering the state championship, one of the writers (Schneider) picks Stefanini as his candidate for X factor and specifically notes that he is always tasked with shutting down the opponent's best player. He led BC with 18 in the big win over powerhouse Teaneck the other day.
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