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Username Post: Strategy for Next Weekend        (Topic#20019)
PennFan10 
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02-27-17 03:34 PM - Post#223894    
    In response to Chet Forte

  • Chet Forte Said:
Dartmouth' biggest problem against Penn will be the notorious home cooking at the Palestra.



If it's anything like Columbia last Saturday Penn should win going away.

 
palestra38 
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02-27-17 04:00 PM - Post#223898    
    In response to PennFan10

Let's not go overboard. Yes, there were a few brutal calls (most notably the 3 shot foul), but Penn had its chance to win. The refs didn't decide it.

 
penn nation 
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Strategy for Next Weekend
02-27-17 04:02 PM - Post#223899    
    In response to palestra38

They didn't decide it, but they made some very questionable foul calls on Rothschild in the first half that put him in the hole. One of them seemed like a clear cut tie up for a jump ball, too.

Meanwhile concurrently there were times where we were getting hacked and nothing was called. There was one point in the game where after such a play SD leaped from his seat and really laid into an official.

Edited by penn nation on 02-27-17 04:04 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Chet Forte 
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02-27-17 05:24 PM - Post#223904    
    In response to penn nation

Rothschild could have been arrested for assault and battery. The number of fouls called was virtually identical. And the three shot foul was confirmed after the refs reviewed the video. In any event Smith only made 2 of the 3.


 
palestra38 
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Strategy for Next Weekend
02-27-17 05:49 PM - Post#223912    
    In response to Chet Forte

Wait a sec Chet--foul calls are not reviewable. They were checking to see if it were a 2 or 3 shot foul. But the foul call was outlandish---he launched himself into the defender, who was not moving, and pushed off.

Let's get the rules right before making the categorical statement that the foul was confirmed.

 
PennFan10 
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02-27-17 06:42 PM - Post#223921    
    In response to palestra38

Look at the video on all 3 of Rothschild's foul calls. Not one of them was a good call. There were missed calls against Columbia as well. Defenders are allowed to jump vertically with hands in the air and not be called for a foul.

The Euro step for Petrasek's andone was ridiculous. Rothschild was set, outside the circle, for 3 steps and then Petrasek traveled.

Again, give us the Penn version of those refs this weekend and we sweep easily.

 
TheLine 
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02-27-17 07:14 PM - Post#223927    
    In response to PennFan10

I thought the refereeing was acceptable. Nothing really awful. They didn't decide the game, which is all you can ask.

It was funny how the refs at the Cornell-Penn game were calling the palming while the refs at the Columbia-Penn game should have called a couple they didn't - both on Columbia and Penn.

The positive to having a tournament was that both teams played at a high intensity level.


 
Old Bear 
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Strategy for Next Weekend
02-27-17 07:23 PM - Post#223929    
    In response to PennFan10

Ivy refs. are almost uniformly awful. Bad calls tend to be both ways, though the favored or home teams seem to generally get the worst of it, IMO. The Brown - Dartmouth game last weekend was among the worst I have seen, I think 32 fouls against Brown, 23 against Dartmouth, 55 in all. Neither team played differently from earlier games.

Now, if we are still talking Columbia strategy for the weekend, I suggest the Lions should start Faulds and bring Stefanini and Hanson in off the bench.

 
SomeGuy 
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Re: Strategy for Next Weekend
02-27-17 09:28 PM - Post#223943    
    In response to Old Bear

I never understand getting overly focused on the refs. They make good calls and bad calls. The calls are the calls. I've literally never walked away from a game thinking that the refs determined the outcome. Might be the youth basketball coach in me -- I never even question a call, because I never want the kids focused on anything other than the next play.

 
PennFan10 
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02-27-17 10:34 PM - Post#223959    
    In response to SomeGuy

For the record I don't think the refs decided the outcome of the game either, I just enjoy complaining about stuff.

 
Old Bear 
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02-28-17 05:12 PM - Post#224044    
    In response to PennFan10

I can think of one or two of the hundreds I have seen.


 
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