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PennFan10 
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03-02-17 12:23 PM - Post#224281    

Article quoting Robin Harris on the future of the IL Tournament

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/c ollege/...

She talks about a bunch of issues discussed on these boards including Places like Y, H, Col as well as these select quotes:

On the Palestra as venue:

It was easy to come here this year. This is the obvious place, and we'll just have to - I think it's certainly a front-runner for next year as we look at how we want to promote and feature our student-athletes during March Madness. It's a very special place.

On potential of higher seed to host:

If we were to go to the site of the higher seed, the regular-season champion, that could very well be different, and at different schools, and it would not allow us to bring our men and women together. One of the main reasons these tournaments were approved was to bring the men and women together.

On possible non Ivy neutral site:

We will look at and evaluate, in May, neutral-site venues that are within our footprint, that make sense, that are right-sized, that will create the right atmosphere.



 
westphillywarrior 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-02-17 01:17 PM - Post#224294    
    In response to PennFan10

The most amazing line in there was:

"One of the main reasons these tournaments were approved was to bring the men and women together."

Now I finally understand why we're having the tournament.

 
penn nation 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-02-17 01:24 PM - Post#224296    
    In response to westphillywarrior

And this will be pumped into all of the occupied dorms:

Link

  • westphillywarrior Said:
The most amazing line in there was:

"One of the main reasons these tournaments were approved was to bring the men and women together."

Now I finally understand why we're having the tournament.




 
SRP 
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03-02-17 01:29 PM - Post#224298    
    In response to penn nation

That's actually mildly reassuring. At least they had a social-change agenda to explain their decision.

 
penn nation 
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03-02-17 01:42 PM - Post#224300    
    In response to SRP

Lions and Tigers and Bears--oh my!

Well, Tigers, at any rate.

 
westphillywarrior 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-02-17 01:45 PM - Post#224301    
    In response to PennFan10

Here is what I would suggest to Robin Harris:

Combine the different options.

Play the men's and women's semi-final games on the courts of the higher seeded teams. These games could be in the middle of the week. This option would make finishing first and second during the 14 game tournament an important goal and would reward those teams and their fans.

Find an appropriate neutral site for a Saturday grand championship men's and women's finals. This would guarantee a large arena and would bring the men and women together.

 
palestra38 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-02-17 01:54 PM - Post#224304    
    In response to penn nation

I now get it---we're doing a product placement with this:

http://www.rightstuffdating.com/

 
sparman 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-02-17 02:37 PM - Post#224307    
    In response to palestra38

Teams 5-8 will be frustrated.

 
SRP 
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03-02-17 02:37 PM - Post#224308    
    In response to palestra38

Will this help promote women's basketball? It will be interesting to see.

 
palestra38 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-02-17 02:51 PM - Post#224313    
    In response to sparman

It will just give them incentive to make the playoff the next season. No one likes a loser.

 
sparman 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-02-17 03:26 PM - Post#224317    
    In response to palestra38

Another niche market for alternate facts is born.

 
penn nation 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-02-17 04:47 PM - Post#224324    
    In response to sparman

  • sparman Said:
Teams 5-8 will be frustrated.



It also gives the word 'seeding' extra meaning.


 
weinhauers_ghost 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-03-17 10:24 AM - Post#224402    
    In response to PennFan10

The New York Times has finally noticed the new tournament.

 
Tiger69 
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IL Tourney future
03-03-17 01:38 PM - Post#224423    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

Ah, "like an antique collector ... pining for the old days..." a few of us old guys bitch about the many questionable decisions that went into the design of our first tourney. I'm going to telephone that writer on my rotary dial and thank him for bringing me into the 21st century. What could possibly be more outdated than having a two month+ season with a 56 game schedule to determine a champion when we can get it all done in 18 hours on one team's basketball arena? 56 games is so BORING and requires far too long an attention span for a champion these days. How could I and a few others have been so old fashioned?

I guess I'll wander down to the lounge and see if anyone is up for a little whist or a game of pinochle.

 
PennFan10 
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03-03-17 01:43 PM - Post#224425    
    In response to Tiger69

"So last March, amid an influx of new personnel and shifting opinions among players and coaches, the Ivy League broke with its tradition and became the final Division I conference to institute a postseason tournament."

This is the new way....patience grasshopper. This has been a more exciting Ivy League season as delineated in the article. More basketball is good basketball.

 
yoyo 
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03-03-17 03:16 PM - Post#224450    
    In response to PennFan10

Good to hear The Cathedral is the front runner for the future.

 
TheLine 
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IL Tourney future
03-03-17 03:56 PM - Post#224453    
    In response to yoyo

I'm guessing if this tournament is a success - and I think it will be - then the powers that be will either move it to a permanent 'neutral' site (bad idea) or rotate it (OK if the sites are acceptable, would like the Palestra to continue to be in the mix). I think the season has already been a success. I had been totally opposed to a tournament but it has made the games more intense and fun to watch.

The ideas floated by the Princeton coaches are bad. You can't have a tournament in a 2,000 seat arena - it would be worse than those one game play-ins Penn and Princeton used to play at Stabler. Having the top seed play one fewer game is awful - but why stop there? Maybe the top seed can shoot at a 9 foot hoop and their opponent shoot at a 12 foot hoop? If you want the top seed to win so badly then don't have a tournament.

PS - I had a rotary phone until not too long ago when my wife made me throw it out. I am always up for a game of bridge, whist or pinochle.



 
TigerFan 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-03-17 05:05 PM - Post#224464    
    In response to TheLine

The Line, you sound like someone who thinks their team will never win the 14-game league championship again. Let's see, under your thinking, your team could slither into the this thing with a solid 6-8 record every year and enjoy home court advantage. Enjoy your low standards pal.

Go Tigers!

 
TheLine 
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03-03-17 06:37 PM - Post#224478    
    In response to TigerFan

You stay classy, TigerFan.

Wouldn't want you any other way.



 
bradley 
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Re: IL Tourney future
03-03-17 11:48 PM - Post#224614    
    In response to TheLine

That Courtney Banghart suggestion is just crazy suggesting 3 teams vs. 4 teams as we would miss the opportunity to watch the excitement as to which team gets the 4th seed -- by default??

If 4th seed wins the IL Tournament, IL may have the opportunity to participate in the play in game in order to face Villanova or Gonzaga; but it is exciting I must admit.

 
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