Penndemonium
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Harvard II and other things
03-04-17 10:20 PM - Post#224883
In response to Penndemonium
I don't want to be negative, but I was kind of glad to hear Foreman fouled out. I was a bit worried about his deliberate style in crunch time- that he would hold the ball too late into the clock. Much prefer the way Goodman moves the ball either on the dribble or with a pass. I have visions of Foreman dribbling in place with the ball while he scans the court. Lack of ball movement just kills the O and gives the advantage to the opponent's D.
Edited by Penndemonium on 03-04-17 10:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Chip Bayers
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03-04-17 10:20 PM - Post#224884
In response to rbg
Amazing that Columbia was poised to enter the tournament having lost 7 of 8 down the stretch, until JD broke their hearts.
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Mike Porter
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Harvard II and other things
03-04-17 10:23 PM - Post#224886
In response to PennFan10
Amazing win! I was landing on flight so couldn't even follow stats until after (again probably best for my heart!). Obviously season like we had can get frustrating as a diehard fan, but proud of the team finding a way to win this game and also finding a way to get to the Palestra from down 0-6!!!
And most of all, happy for and thankful of Matt Howard!!! I'm sure he had other options mid-Penn career when things got real bad, but he stuck it out and got us here. Let's Go Quakers!
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weinhauers_ghost
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Re: Harvard II and other things
03-04-17 10:27 PM - Post#224887
In response to Mike Porter
A tip of the hat to Matt Howard. From the start of the game, his determination and timely plays kept Penn alive. Nice to see he'll get to play at least one more game at the Palestra.
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dperry
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03-04-17 10:27 PM - Post#224888
In response to Penndemonium
Congrats to the Penn Quakers. What a strange regular season it's been. Matt Howard was not ready for his college career to end. That's awesome.
Yeah, he did pick them up and carry them today.
David Perry
Penn '92
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Chip Bayers
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03-04-17 10:33 PM - Post#224890
In response to dperry
Checking the box, Donahue's only stat line entry in limited minutes despite starting (13 total) prior to taking and hitting his only FGA was a lone defensive rebound.
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umbrellaman
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03-04-17 10:39 PM - Post#224892
In response to dperry
I slowed down the replay to try to see if Steve Donahue actually called the play to Jackson Donahue. It appears that it was an even better designed play than that. Edosomwan gets lost doubing Goodman and Brodeur was wide open down the lan for a layup if Donahue pulls the ball down AND had great position for a rebound if he missed.
Obviously, Harvard has more talent out there, running out Edosomwan, Towns, Baker, and Lewis on the front court for instance. But unlike Penn they didn't seem to be able to exploit mismatches and double teams. They'll be scary if they ever learn to move the ball around, but that's an if.
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Chip Bayers
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Harvard II and other things
03-04-17 10:53 PM - Post#224894
In response to umbrellaman
Radio guys also said S. Donahue after the shot was screaming at Goodman to foul Chambers in the backcourt to prevent a three attempt. But Dev apparently didn't hear him because he was back pedaling like mad, which allowed Chambers to get into the front court with his head up to make the pass to Johnson for the potential tying shot.
Edited by Chip Bayers on 03-04-17 10:53 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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penn nation
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Re: Harvard II and other things
03-04-17 11:31 PM - Post#224895
In response to Chip Bayers
Tonight is a time to celebrate. Best night for Penn basketball in many, many years.
No criticism from me tonight!!!
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10Q
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03-04-17 11:35 PM - Post#224897
In response to penn nation
Four seed!! Best seeding in so many years.
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Lefteroo
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03-04-17 11:44 PM - Post#224898
In response to 10Q
I could not watch here, and I was relying on you guys in this thread for updates. Mrs. L and I went out for a late meal - I just got home, scrolled through all the comments from where I had left off with 5:20 left in the game, and got the happy result at the end. Thank you, guys, for keeping me posted!! 4th Place never felt so good!
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SomeGuy
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03-04-17 11:57 PM - Post#224899
In response to Chip Bayers
Funny -- my son and I spent the timeout discussing what we thought Penn would run and who we wanted to take the last shot. Jackson was the one guy whose name never came up!
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palestra38
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03-05-17 12:04 AM - Post#224901
In response to SomeGuy
Same here--no one in our row thought they would run a play for Donahue, who had simply done nothing up to that point. With the way Howard was playing, how could we not go to him. Howard ran to the far corner, Donahue came off a pick and had the clean look. We all cringed---with almost 7 seconds left, there was too much time if he missed.
Had it all the way. What a great shot and a great play. And some heroics along the way, with consistently great play from Howard, a huge 3 from AJ that cut a desperate 7 point deficit to 4. A great steal and end to end from Goodman. That 7 point lead was gone in less than a minute. We just never gave up, despite the amazing talent Harvard has---they had 9 or 10 guys who can make plays.
A little surprised that Harvard never applied pressure on the ball. But we took an important step today. We will be better next year (although we will miss Howard) and one more good recruiting class and we'll be very competitive. Meanwhile, it's pure House Money against Princeton and it's in our House.
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Ted
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03-05-17 12:06 AM - Post#224902
In response to SomeGuy
Best game in at least 10 years! And great to hear the joint rockin' again! Congrats Quakers, for a gritty, gutsy win.
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section110
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03-05-17 12:09 AM - Post#224903
In response to Ted
Looking only at the box score you would say Aiken & Chambers dominated; but I think Foreman & Goodman did terrific jobs keeping in front of them & making them work for their points & that Foreman had a very good weekend running the offense.
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Chip Bayers
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03-05-17 12:30 AM - Post#224905
In response to section110
Best thing about it is at least one extra game of experience for the freshmen.
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Cvonvorys
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Re: Harvard II and other things
03-05-17 12:56 AM - Post#224906
In response to Mike Porter
And most of all, happy for and thankful of Matt Howard!!! I'm sure he had other options mid-Penn career when things got real bad, but he stuck it out and got us here. Let's Go Quakers!
Aside from that great come-from-behind win against Princeton with that Begley-Osmundson-Fikiel team, I cannot think of a better game I've seen in person.
I was at The Palestra with my 10-year-old, who brought two of his friends, and we stayed around late to see the players come out afterwards. I had the chance to talk to Matt Howard. I thanked him for what he's given to the Penn program, said he will be missed next year, and asked him if he had any second thoughts about attending Penn, since he had quite a few other offers... He looked at me kind of quizzically and said "God no!! I love this place."
Also met Ryan Betley. What a great kid.
Having met some of the players, it will be hard for me to be overly critical of them on this board in the future. They are kids who sacrifice a lot for this program and are trying hard to win every game. So tonight, let's celebrate the great win these kids gave us!
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Quakers03
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Harvard II and other things
03-05-17 01:04 AM - Post#224907
In response to Tiger69
Last night apparently drained both Harvard and Dartmouth.
Keep yapping big guy...keep yapping. Say what you want but no way you're happy about this.
Best game in at least 10 years! And great to hear the joint rockin' again! Congrats Quakers, for a gritty, gutsy win.
I still take the Tyler charge game at Harvard over this, but this is certainly the best in the last 5 years. Same situation now too, except we're home.
As for the game, what can you say except good for the guys. Great for the guys, actually. Howard would not let them lose and if healthy throughout the league season, this would've been wrapped up a week ago. Props to AJ for staying with it. Even when missing, Betley's presence is always felt. And how about them making 80% from the line and being perfect in the first half?
As for the last play, I'm glad Darnell fouling out took the decision out of Steve's hands. I was certain they'd get the ball to Matt, but good for coach for keeping confidence all year in Jackson and good for Jackson for such a sweet stroke. That ball was in the air forever. Man did I miss looking across the Palestra at fellow fans going nuts. It has been far too long.
I really wonder what the make up of fans will be.
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Quakers03
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03-05-17 01:35 AM - Post#224909
In response to Quakers03
Anyone know where the Penn bench will be? Would they move them?
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PennFan10
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03-05-17 01:36 AM - Post#224910
In response to Quakers03
and maybe the locker room too.
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