10Q
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03-05-17 12:20 PM - Post#224984
In response to Tiger69
You are Haman yimach shemo.
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penn nation
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03-05-17 12:28 PM - Post#224985
In response to Tiger69
You know, it says in the Book of Esther that they drew lots to determine the fate of the people. Princeton drew #1 and Penn drew #4.
The date of Purim is on 14 Adar. I'd say we're getting our hamantaschen all lined up in a row.
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10Q
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03-05-17 12:35 PM - Post#224988
In response to penn nation
Isn't West Philly a walled city?
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Tiger69
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03-05-17 12:57 PM - Post#224994
In response to penn nation
As I say to all the nice, true believer, and well-intentioned Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. who tap on my door and want to save my soul, "If we use your holy book to arbitrate our differences, then I am lost. But, as I am a devout atheist, your book has no authority for me in our discussion. So, come on in, have a beer or a cup of coffee, and let's have at it!".
How could God have only dealt you a #4? And, where was he/she/it Friday night against Ver ...uh..Dartmouth?
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penn nation
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03-05-17 02:06 PM - Post#225011
In response to Tiger69
You know, we did have to wander in the desert for quite a few OTs before we made it to the Promised Land. That's what God does sometimes to his Chosen People when at first they are undeserving, 0-6, or some combination thereof.
As I say to all the nice, true believer, and well-intentioned Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. who tap on my door and want to save my soul, "If we use your holy book to arbitrate our differences, then I am lost. But, as I am a devout atheist, your book has no authority for me in our discussion. So, come on in, have a beer or a cup of coffee, and let's have at it!".
How could God have only dealt you a #4? And, where was he/she/it Friday night against Ver ...uh..Dartmouth?
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10Q
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03-05-17 02:54 PM - Post#225028
In response to penn nation
We need Moses Malone.
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penn nation
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03-05-17 03:19 PM - Post#225036
In response to 10Q
So when is the appropriate time to cut down the nets, after finishing 14-0 or after the tournament?
To answer your question, there are three times this happens in college basketball:
1) When you've punched your ticket to the NCAA tourney;
2) When you've punched your ticket to the Final Four;
3) When you've won the whole shibang.
Princeton is currently 0 for 3. Three strikes....and yer OUT!!
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Tiger69
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03-05-17 03:26 PM - Post#225040
In response to 10Q
Here's to the tourney for inspiring all this hope and time-consuming chatter -- an excellent diversion from the more depressing matters nationally and abroad. However, I need a new emoji for nuance.
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section110
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03-05-17 03:30 PM - Post#225043
In response to Tiger69
No sour grapes & no way you get or deserve a (second) NCAA bid. Can't spell Princeton without an N, an I and a T.
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Tiger69
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03-05-17 03:42 PM - Post#225049
In response to section110
Sorry, I can't respond in kind. I'm just in too good a mood It's hell on my "nasty" gene!
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section110
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03-05-17 04:06 PM - Post#225062
In response to Tiger69
It is good you are enjoying this weekend.
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SomeGuy
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03-05-17 04:09 PM - Post#225064
In response to section110
Depends on the coach. Some always seem to converse with the assistants for the first part of the timeout, some spend the whole time talking to the players. I actually like Amaker's approach both from a leadership perspective and from the perspective of getting to the best answer. He appears to have a system for quickly getting other points of view. I'm sure he knows at the start of the timeout what he thinks they should do -- I presume he just wants to get other perspectives. I think that's a good thing.
I also think in general he's a better in game coach than he gets credit for. I did like that they always seemed to come out in something different defensively whenever we were going to run a set play out of a timeout. They certainly were working the sub patterns too. They clearly wanted Zena in there against Max, and so there was a lot of responsive substituting going on that was kind of interesting to watch and think about.
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TheLine
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03-05-17 04:39 PM - Post#225077
In response to SomeGuy
I agree Amaker is underrated as a coach but I don't think he did a good job on that final defensive play. How can you not defend Donahue at all?
I'm pretty sure SD read Harvard's defense - on the side angle of the play you can see him signal Goodman and I'm assuming it was to have him pass it to JD.
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tguru
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03-05-17 04:46 PM - Post#225083
In response to TheLine
Is it correct that the winner of the 2nd game will get off the court around 6pm Saturday evening and have to play again at noon next day? I can't believe an athlete(s) constructed that schedule.
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section110
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03-05-17 04:48 PM - Post#225085
In response to SomeGuy
I recognize that lots of coaches consult their staff at the start of timeouts; but, I have never seen anyone take almost the entire time out doing so before talking to the team, except Amaker on that & a few other occasions (and I don't see Harvard that often). The end of game scenarios strike me as ones in which the coach should want to maximize going over instructions to his team. The staff work for those should have been done long before.
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penn nation
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Harvard II and other things 03-05-17 04:59 PM - Post#225091
In response to tguru
Yes, that is the schedule. Not much better for the 2-3 seeds on the women's side.
For the men, I guess they need to play early enough so that the NCAA committee can lock that team in for its seeding given all of the other permutations it has to make that weekend. Would imagine a fair degree of variance in the Ivy seed depending on who it is.
Either that, and/or maybe it was the only time slot available on Sunday to ensure any kind of ESPN coverage.
Edited by penn nation on 03-05-17 05:00 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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PennFan10
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03-05-17 05:07 PM - Post#225095
In response to TheLine
I agree Amaker is underrated as a coach but I don't think he did a good job on that final defensive play. How can you not defend Donahue at all?
I'm pretty sure SD read Harvard's defense - on the side angle of the play you can see him signal Goodman and I'm assuming it was to have him pass it to JD.
https://twitter.com/Penn/status/838231830 818091009
here is another angle. It actually appears as though Steve Donahue is surprise by Jackson appearing right in front of him. The play looked like it was a double dive by Betley followed by a downscreen by Aj to pop Betley or get the post. Baker was helping on the dive agains the initial action and lost Jackson as he drifted high. Goodman passes it and then looks at Aj/Betley, clearly wasn't expecting Jackson to shoot it. Steve D said as much in the post game....Jackson obviously talked as if that was the play the whole time. It wasn't.
Baker was helping almost all the way under the basket as the ball was on the far side. His mistake was losing Jackson as the play developed. Pretty sure Amaker didn't ask him to do that.
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tguru
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Re: Harvard II and other things 03-05-17 05:09 PM - Post#225096
In response to penn nation
What about an old school doubleheader Friday night? Both winners may be gassed, particularly 2/3. Don't they want to show fresh athletes?
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penn nation
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Re: Harvard II and other things 03-05-17 05:15 PM - Post#225100
In response to tguru
They are also looking to maximize attendance and remember that the women's games are also being played all on the same day.
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03-05-17 05:18 PM - Post#225102
In response to SomeGuy
From my perspective, I agree about Zena vs Max, but I thought that in the second half Donahue wanted AJ out there without Zena to guard him. Eventually, Donahue countered by putting both AJ and Max out there against Zena. I was hoping Amaker would have played Zena and Chris Lewis both then.
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